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  • Hormone therapy?

    Edit:

  • but this meant peasants could only get land reform by accusing their landlords of being abusive reactionaries

    Somehow I doubt they peasants had to lie about that very often, lol.

  • is that applying his rule means anyone who says "Israel should stop existing and Palestine should be the only state in that territory" is out of line

    I think his point is that it's out of line if the same person also calls for respect of international law, because that's an inconsistent position (international law supports Israel's right to exist, so calling to respect it means also calling for that). As I said before, I think international law is already worthless, but I see the logic of the argument even if I disagree with it. I might have been misremembering his position, though.

  • AFAIK his criticism of BDS wasn't that they rejected Israel per se, but rather that they upheld one aspect of international law but not the other. I disagree because I think international law is already largely worthless, but I think it was "if you lean on the law that says X, you have to accept that the same law says Y", rather than "Israel has a right to exist and I don't like that you're undermining it". I could be misremembering this, though.

  • Right, this is tailism. "The masses are reactionary on this issue, so we shouldn't be too progressive on it to avoid alienating them". I'm saying once again that the people who see leaders at a meeting masking and leave immediately are reactionaries and should not be catered to because doing so will make the org toxic to disabled people and because these people you're trying to appeal to will not be transformed into good cadres, especially if you cater to their biases instead of challenging them. Which is why tailism doesn't work and is a bad idea.

  • I'm clearly talking about the average maskless Joe who thru ignroance or inattention is liable to confuse your org for a health support group rather than an instrument to wield political power

    I think this isn't accurate. Your claim is that someone would go to a meeting and just because the organizers are wearing masks, assume that they walked into the wrong one? Or are you dismissively categorizing (in the mind of the so-called "average Joe") people who wear masks as unable, unwilling, or unworthy of wielding political power?

  • Agreed, actually, you make a great point especially that ZCC should be the best space for leftist agitation. And re-reading OP in isolation (originally I just skimmed it and read the comments) it's clearly valid frustration. I guess I was just sensitive to the Democrat thing, because I remember watching in real-time as they acted as the vanguard of global COVID denialism.

  • It's also easier to alienate new or potential members due to the dominance of covid denialist narratives in social discourse, and that conundrum shouldn't be met with its own denialism in turn

    If seeing people wearing masks alienates new participants, those are not participants you want. They would functionally be wreckers. This is blatant tailism.

  • Agreed. I just find it disturbing that OOP is seemingly proud of their vote for the Democrats, who essentially created the mainstream acceptable form of COVID denialism in the USA (and many other places) today. If anything, the problem with the US left is they have largely adopted the liberal position on this issue.

    I agree the state of the discourse on this issue on this website is deplorable. I find it tolerable because it at least gets push-back here even in non-explicitly-COVID-focused spaces.

  • The linked thread is largely full of liberals punching left as though they're not the ones who created this situation (OP defensively assuring people they "still voted" as if the Democrats weren't the original architects of the spread of this disease while claiming in the title that no leftists are COVID conscious), but it's true that a lot of self-proclaimed "leftists" seem to have a serious problem with the idea of leading by example and taking very basic and very easy precautions when organizing.

  • while maintaining the right of leadership and members to organize in certain contexts (particularly outreach) without constant referral to hazmat protocols

    Leadership and cadres (or at the very least leadership) should be expected to take basic precautions, so that disabled people can participate non-remotely without putting themselves at severe risk. I don't see how this demand is any different from a demand for remote participation. It's much easier for leadership to (for example) lead by example and wear masks, which would do a lot to promote COVID consciousness in orgs, than it is to implement actually effective remote participation in many cases.

    Edit: you still haven't said what "exigency and practicality" meant, so I can only assume you meant that "practicality" was leadership taking literally no COVID precautions, which is practical because... ???

    while maintaining the right of leadership and members to organize in certain contexts (particularly outreach) without constant referral to hazmat protocols

    Derisively referring to asking people to wear masks as "constant referral to hazmat protocols" is disingenuous.

    As far as I can tell, it's pretty easy to figure out

    "I implied my point, it's your fault for not being able to figure it out" isn't an argument. Say what you mean, I'm not reading your mind.

  • This is a great point. And OP is in the comments saying "Please don’t get me wrong, I still voted" so I think they might not know what a "leftist" actually is. Sadly the linked thread is a mix of liberals and a few leftists, and as far as I can tell the liberals are replying to the leftists as though they're talking about Democrats, so the whole discussion ends up being completely useless.

  • Edit 2: I was originally really bothered by the "I still voted" thing due to the Democrats having literally been the vanguard of widespread socially-acceptable COVID denialism, but I read the OOP again (after discussing with JoeByeThen in this thread) and it's really understandable, actually. I think the OOP isn't extremely politically aware, but they are pointing out a real issue here. The left should be the vanguard of pushing back against this, but today it's mostly a small portion of the left while the majority has adopted the liberal position completely on this issue.


    The linked thread is mostly garbage for the simple reason that many of the people in it clearly don't know what "left" means, so it's an eclectic mix of vague but mostly correct critiques of leftist groups and people who are talking about the Democrats (including likely OOP, who defensively assures commenters "they still voted").

    Edit: elsewhere in the thread, OP says "Leftists consider liberals as very non-serious", so it certainly seems like OP is a radlib and not a leftist. As purpleworm pointed out, very suspicious to title the thread "any leftists" instead of "non-masking leftists" or something similar.

  • As far as I can tell, you're not actually saying anything in this comment. What is "exigency and practicality" in this case? What would be the "more competend and rigorous application of constructive critique"?

  • Yes, but they should understand when they're visiting the US that they have to tip because otherwise the workers make almost nothing.

  • Damn, I thought the underscore was a parody account. You're right, it's the official one lmao.

    to the person in charge of it.

  • It's actually one ban. AFAIK when a user from a federated instance is instance banned on Lemmy, it will also automatically display a ban for every community in which they participated, even though they were not manually banned from every community.

    As Saymaz said, this ban was actually by mistake (an admin accidentally clicked the wrong user in the UI and didn't notice until later).

  • They at least subconsciously think being gay is bad, I guess.

  • emoji @hexbear.net

    :wrong-house-were-white:

  • theory @hexbear.net

    Anti-zionism reading group Week 2 - Perfect Victims by Mohammed El-Kurd - Author's Note and Chapter 1

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    Teaching amerikkkans how to spell "bourgeois"

  • disabled @hexbear.net

    Not everyone who brings up things they perceive as issues is a wrecker - A vent about how people can be sincere

  • theory @hexbear.net

    Anti-zionism Reading Group - Jewish settlers stole my house. It’s not my fault they’re Jewish. by Mohammed El-Kurd

  • covid @hexbear.net

    Anyone need anything from the store?

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    When the cat knocks over and breaks all the dishes, forcing you to buy new ones

  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    Further evidence dbzer0 moderator defended by admin is a nazi supporter and was not misunderstood or misrepresented

  • emoji @hexbear.net

    :fell-for-it-button-1: and :fell-for-it-button-2:

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    I HAVE NO PROPERTY & I MUST RENT

  • emoji @hexbear.net

    :fell-for-it-sunrise:

  • chat @hexbear.net

    Hexbear Non-ableist Insult/Descriptor Minithread

  • emoji @hexbear.net

    :suggestion-1: and :suggestion-2:

  • commrequest @hexbear.net

    Comm request: /c/globalhexbears

  • theory @hexbear.net

    Anti-zionist Reading Group Planning - Propose Books Here

  • badposting @hexbear.net

    I have noticed an extremely disturbing trend in the behaviors of users of this site that could impact our most vulnerable comrades

  • commrequest @hexbear.net

    Comm Request: /c/antizionism

  • technology @hexbear.net

    Emoji Picker Performance and UX

  • memes @hexbear.net

    An Important Life Lesson From Comrade Garfield

  • Chapotraphouse @hexbear.net

    Graham Platner disobeyed direct orders in Iraq in order to commit even more war crimes against civilians than the US Navy allowed him to

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