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All aboard the LainTrain - We all love Lain!

  • The other being of course - Israel

  • Yeah, corporate regulatory capture is a plague everywhere. Capitalism, man.

  • Yeah don't

  • Yeah it's weird AF how some Americans blame european governments and not their corpos who have collectively chosen to do popups instead of finding alternative ethical business models.

  • Honestly, what "nightmare"? Who gives af about a popup. If it bothers you so much just use an extension that auto-declines them.

    I want corpos to not track people on the internet and I think the GDPR regulation has been broadly a godsend in that department, I love exercising my rights to my data.

  • Because you don't care about making art, so you choose comfort and financial safety.

    Yeah, I choose to eat, so do you, evidently.

    But my choices on how I earn that bread were more limited than yours, again - evidently.

    Beyond that, I choose not to make assumptions about you or your life like you've done with mine.

    Also lol "comfort and financial safety". No. Not for most people in most of this world. It's more like survival vs not survival.

    So how does this have nothing to do with privilege? It literally is what privilege is.

    Telling poors to learn art is like telling someone to bet everything on starting a business. It's a good idea only if you're rich, because if you fail - and to learn you must fail sometimes - you can try again, but the working class doesn't get the luxury of second chances.

    You're talking about outsourcing art, but then complain about who actually make art.

    No, I'm talking about generating art from a prompt, I have no issues with people who make art obviously, as long as they don't have an issue with those who lack the resources to develop the skills and instead use AI to put their ideas into action or polish existing ones.

    If you'd like to change my mind, show me a few professionally successful present-day working class artists.

    This means they:

    1. Make most of their income from their work
    2. Most active period this or past decade and they are no older than 40.
    3. Working class background, so no artists in family at all, no industry connections they didn't make themselves, no nepotism etc.

    Also lol, of course I care about making art, why else would I be even talking about it, much less pointing out that generative AI accidentally or not - corrects a class injustice?

    If I saw no value in making art, why would I ever consider it an injustice that the working class cannot enjoy it?

    I make music in my spare time whenever I can and have for years, and no I don't and would never use any generative AI tools for the music itself, nor do I even sample any other music, and I think I've even improved at it somewhat despite a lack of basically any education on the subject matter beyond a few guides and YouTube videos on music theory here and there. It's a highly rewarding hobby.

    Realistically though, that 'whenever' is simply not enough time to create anything professional and polished enough for me to sell and for it to appeal to anyone besides myself and whatever loved one is unfortunate enough to be subjected to it.

  • Do you have another retort besides "lol"? Spending the amount of time required to produce professional art when an income isn't directly guaranteed is a risk most of us can't take, FYI.

    You still can't make

    Yeah and why would I need to?

    If I don't enjoy that particular process nearly enough to learn how to make it good, and I wanted it to be good and I was feeling creative and had an idea for it, I could just get it made for me, free of charge, free of corpo influence or any strings attached. It's a sweet deal.

  • Come to the UK and stand outside for a sec on an average day then. 89-96 rH% humidity gets old real fast.

  • Bro put his wife on ice.

    Iced her?..

    Yeah I got nothing.

  • or since there are FOSS AI models that are free as in free beer it allows everyone to access the benefits of the privileged - i.e. those who can specialized in fields like arts that aren't conducive to making enough money out of the gate to survive as a working class person

  • Some of them are so stupid they couldn't do it even when it was the easiest time in modern history to do so, that's who they think we all are when they post their "just stop eating avocado toast" ass advice and "I had problems too but I pulled myself up by my bootstraps and not been some dramatic wokey" type shit, they are referring to their life xp where they or someone they knew had become like a heroin addict at 15 and never had a job, so now they only have a small mansion instead of a palace.

    They don't understand that in the real world, now, it you're working class and you fuck up just once, you ain't gonna be around to talk about it. Gen X think you have your 20s to fuck about, travel the world or some shit, but we know better - you do or die, or there won't be scraps left.

  • I don't even agree with your premise - Sarcasm is conveyed and deciphered primarily via context clues and tone and expectations set by the context juxtaposed with both the tone and content of the message.

    The tone of voice is the spoken equivalent of the sitcom laugh track and is really only there to absolutely make sure everyone is on the same page.

    I have absolutely zero trouble reading The Onion's or Hard Drive Mag's satire even without knowing that's where it came from and understanding it as not being literal. I also have never seen sarcasm indicated with the /s tag outside of Reddit.

    My coworkers frequently write sarcastically in casual chat at work and not once has anyone suffixed it with some tag, and I literally do not even know what they sound like at all.

    Even on Reddit itself, that practice was only ever adopted as a way to keep out brigading/raids by bad-faith (often political) trolls who hide behind the veil of sarcasm. Same as the much more recent phenomenon of /uj and /rj tags being adopted on many circlejerk/parody subs

    Over time the meaning probably got lost and ossified into "no one can understand sarcasm" or "no one can read". I suggest you read more.

  • Thank you! And yeah you said it well.

    I might check it out at some point, but I'm not really into mythology tbh, I think the only thing remotely close to that that I've ever consumed is some of the videos from Overly Sarcastic Productions on YT.

    I also wonder where (if anywhere) they teach classical greek myths at school. The literature classes we had in high school - other than Shakespeare - mostly focused on modern period literature from the 19th century onwards (with the most recent book probably being To Kill A Mockingbird ofc and the earliest Silas Marner)

    I guess that's kinda like what's particularly astounding to me about the downvotes. This is not even a matter of privilege and resources, it's simply a matter of: Why would you expect anyone to go out of their way to look up fairly obscure greek myths, unless they were specifically into fairly obscure greek myths? And I already think considering I actively engage with content about mythology even rarely as it may be I imagine most people know much less.

    Heck I had the lucky opportunity for the joy of explaining The Illiad and The Odyssey to my girlfriend recently, who had literally no clue what those even were or that they existed.

    Right now I'm really into space stuff. It's extremely unlikely that if I asked any random person, including myself from like slightly over a week ago, what ORB RATE and INRTL positions on the FDAI switch on Panel 13 do in the Apollo CSM, that they would know what the heck I'm talking about. So I would never make that assumption. It's just kinda baffling to do so.

    We cannot hate on people for not knowing what is unreasonable for anyone but an enthusiast to know. That in itself is refusing to think properly, it is anti-intellectualism, plain and simple. "Ooga Grog no know thing, means Grog bad!" is an insane way to operate, it's reeks of a regressive and unsystemic view of the world.

  • I can understand, but really, though? Why would you expect anyone to know something so niche?

    You should be grateful I'm actually happy to learn about it, and that you had the opportunity to tell me about it, spreading knowledge, especially on something as cool as classical literature and history is a good thing.

  • Co-founded Interplay. Came out as trans in the mid-2000s. Jesus what a legend gone too soon. Bless.

  • Land Value Tax, now.

  • I didn't know of the myth, can I have a billion dollars now? I promise I won't even traumatize Bill Shatner by uncaringly shaking champagne around him like some kind of personified satire.

    Edit: Why am I downvoted for a joke?