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  • The main issue here is that Israel is an Apartheid Settler Colonialist State. The German law prevents even mentioning the reality of Israel as an Apartheid or as a Settler Colonialist Entity, both of which are critical to the understanding of the current situation and the resolution.

    Controversially, the German government officially classifies the following as antisemitic: the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement, the accusation that Israel is committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinians, and the depiction of Israel as a colonial or settler-colonial entity. Many of those arrested and cancelled in Germany over allegations of antisemitism have been Jews critical of Israel’s policies.[4]

    Due to the Settler Colonialism that have atomized the West Bank into hundreds of isolated Bantustans, it’s already a one-state reality. I’ll quote Avi Schlaim and Ilan Pappe below as they explain the situation quite comprehensivly.

    An Apartheid State has no right to exist. This was the same for Apartheid South Africa. The state was abolished and replaced with one that has equal rights. It did not mean the expulsion of all Afrikaners, it meant the creation of a new state with the integration of equal rights and reparations for the oppressed. It’s the same situation with the current state of Israel, and the way forward also requires the right of return for all Palestinians.

    Settlements and the One-State Reality

    The reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.

    This type of settlement, where the native population gets ‘Transferred’ to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice. See: The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948, the Transfer Committee, and the JNF which led to Forced Displacement of 100,000 Palestinians throughout the mandate, before the mass ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948: Plan Dalet, Declassified Massacres of 1948, and Details of Plan C (May 1946) and Plan D (March 1948) . Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967: Haaretz, Forward; while the peace process was exploited to continue de-facto annexation of the West Bank via Settlements (Oslo Accord Sources: MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ). The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.

    The settlements represent land-grabbing, and land-grabbing and peace-making don’t go together, it is one or the other. By its actions, if not always in its rhetoric, Israel has opted for land-grabbing and as we speak Israel is expanding settlements. So, Israel has been systematically destroying the basis for a viable Palestinian state and this is the declared objective of the Likud and Netanyahu who used to pretend to accept a two-state solution. In the lead up to the last election, he said there will be no Palestinian state on his watch. The expansion of settlements and the wall mean that there cannot be a viable Palestinian state with territorial contiguity. The most that the Palestinians can hope for is Bantustans, a series of enclaves surrounded by Israeli settlements and Israeli military bases.

    "Its support – and this includes what is even called the ‘peace camp’ in Israel – for a two-state solution is an idea that says that you do not have to directly control every part of historical Palestine in order to establish your dominance and hegemony between the River Jordan and the Mediterranean. So, if you can squeeze the Palestinians into small Bantustans and allow them to have a flag and a semblance of a government, there are quite a few Israelis who do not mind at all, so long as this will be the last and final kind of settlement for the Palestine question. Which means no real political rights for the Palestinians, no right of return for the refugees, and keeping all Palestinians in different parts of historical Palestine, at best as second-rate citizens, at worst, as subjects in an apartheid state.

    State violence – official and otherwise – is part and parcel of Israel’s apartheid regime, which aims to create a Jewish-only space between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. The regime treats land as a resource designed to serve the Jewish public, and accordingly uses it almost exclusively to develop and expand existing Jewish residential communities and to build new ones. At the same time, the regime fragments Palestinian space, dispossesses Palestinians of their land and relegates them to living in small, over-populated enclaves.

    The apartheid regime is based on organized, systemic violence against Palestinians, which is carried out by numerous agents: the government, the military, the Civil Administration, the Supreme Court, the Israel Police, the Israel Security Agency, the Israel Prison Service, the Israel Nature and Parks Authority, and others. Settlers are another item on this list, and the state incorporates their violence into its own official acts of violence. Settler violence sometimes precedes instances of official violence by Israeli authorities, and at other times is incorporated into them. Like state violence, settler violence is organized, institutionalized, well-equipped and implemented in order to achieve a defined strategic goal.


  • Thanks, I have also noticed that many are uninterested in the nuance, especially during the election cycle. Many are committed to the team sports aspect and consider any criticism of the Dem party or their positions to be tantamount to betrayal, as if those criticisms must come from some secret conservative or Russian operative masquerading as a progressive.

    I also noticed progressives that would refuse to vote Dem for their pro-genocide stance, which I find completely understandable. However, just as the Dems were ignoring the grassroots pressure during the primary, they would also completely ignore any and all protest votes. Harm reduction is the only argument for voting Dem regardless of their right-wing stance on certain issues (foreign policy, immigration), which is a correct argument and why I advocated for others to vote Dem regardless.

    But this argument also only works for some high propensity voters who do get the pragmatism of the situation. I noticed many were unwilling to accept that the vast majority of the voter population don’t vote like that, and are unable to be convinced to vote that way.

    They need a strong stance on policy that benefit them in some way, more of the status-quo will never cut it when the majority of people are fed up with the status-quo. It’s a systemic issue. Besides the voter suppression aspect, it’s entirely on the campaign to make those strong popular stances on policy. Door knockers can’t outflank the top-line messaging. And yeah, it all goes back to the party being captured by corporate interests. It’s just irritating to see people focus the blame on voters instead of the administration.

    People voting against their self-interest is as old as voting itself. People need to be convicted and captivated. This is why I try to stress how the only effective counter to Right Populism is Left Populism. Once populism is on the rise, those are the only options to mobilize. As the Dems continue to ignore left populism, right populism is the only avenue available for people to channel their frustrations with the status-quo towards. Yet, all it’ll take to turn the tide in a massive way, is that Left Populist candidate. I have my hopes on AOC. But if the party continues to side line her, I can’t see any electoral way out of fascism. At some point, it will no longer be an option.

    That’s also why I extend my support to both electoral reform and armed struggle. Not because armed struggle is preferred, it’s a last resort; but after learning the history of anti colonialism in the global south, armed struggle cannot be ignored. I’m glad I’ve come across the works of Franz Fanon. His works have opened my understanding of many things I wouldn’t have even questioned seeing things from a western lenses.



  • If they’re connecting it to Zionists, it’s antisemitic by trying to tie fascism as inherent to Jewish people (either based on religion or ‘race’).

    I can’t say I know too much about the history back 3000 years ago, but even if there was a fascist society tied to Judaism back then, that has absolutely nothing to do with Zionism, nor whether they were Jewish or not.

    That also side steps that all empires are fascist to some respect, the roman empire being no exception.




  • Wow, I did not expect the need to provide the overwhelming evidence that Israel is doing a genocide in this thread, but here.

    Israel's Genocide on Occupied Palestine

    Our first-hand observations of the medical and humanitarian catastrophe inflicted on Gaza are consistent with the descriptions provided by an increasing number of legal experts and organizations concluding that genocide is taking place in Gaza.

    It examines the killing of civilians, damage to and destruction of civilian infrastructure, forcible displacement, the obstruction or denial of life-saving goods and humanitarian aid, and the restriction of power supplies. It analyses Israel’s intent through this pattern of conduct and statements by Israeli decision-makers. It concludes that Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.

    On 26 January 2024, the ICJ said that it was plausible that Israel had breached the Genocide Convention. As an emergency measure, it ordered Israel ensure that its army refrained from genocidal acts against Palestinians.

    The ICJ reported, as part of its decisions in March and May, that the situation in Gaza had deteriorated and that Israel had failed to abide by its order in January.

    So, when we look at the actions taken, the dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act, according to the convention, of genocide. And Israel, I must say, is also perpetrating act number two and three — that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating condition designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals, which the World Health Organization has declared to be, quote, “a death sentence.” So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide.

    More than 800 scholars of international law and genocide have signed a public statement arguing that the Israeli military may be committing genocidal acts against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip as the total siege and relentless airstrikes continue to inflict devastation on the occupied territory.

    An independent United Nations expert warned Monday that “Israel’s genocidal violence risks leaking out of Gaza and into the occupied Palestinian territory as a whole” as Western governments, corporations, and other institutions keep up their support for the Israeli military, which stands accused of grave war crimes in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

    Our documentation encompasses over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities.

    I, Lee Mordechai, a historian by profession and an Israeli citizen, bear witness in this document to the situation in Gaza as events are unfolding. The enormous amount of evidence I have seen, much of it referenced later in this document, has been enough for me to believe that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian population in Gaza. I explain why I chose to use the term below. Israel’s campaign is ostensibly its reaction to the Hamas massacre of Oct. 7, 2023, in which war crimes and crimes against humanity were committed within the context of the longstanding conflict between Israelis and Palestinians that can be dated back to 1917 or 1948 (or other dates). In all cases, historical grievances and atrocities do not justify additional atrocities in the present. Therefore, I consider Israel’s response to Hamas’ actions on Oct. 7 utterly disproportionate and criminal.

    Others: AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox, CBC






  • One may well ask: “How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?” The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “an unjust law is no law at all.”

    • Martin Luther King Jr. in Birmingham Jail 1963








  • I do appreciate that discourse is more viable on Lemmy than the corporate alternatives, I only see that as getting more important as corporations like Meta and Google crack down on fact checking and anti-fascist discussions.

    I have my criticisms of the moderation on both the .ml and .world side of things, but at least the fediverse is flexible and fluid with the different instances. A lot of topics concerning imperialism, colonialism, capitalism, and socialism have nuances that are important to cut through (all) government and corporate disinformation. But even here a lot of that nuance is overlooked in the larger or team-sporty communities.

    Hopefully educational discussions will continue to gain prominence on here and brigading/group-think will be frowned upon and discouraged. This kind of FOSS social media is a great opportunity to grow global solidarity and class consciousness. Which is become ever more critical as global capitalism lashes out with fascism against (at first) the most vulnerable


  • Thanks, the fact that he completely ignored the bolded text in my initial comment was a dead giveaway they don’t actually give a shit about the morality of the situation.

    The boycott list exists for a reason, as explained in detail on the BDS website. I abide by it as much as possible, amd is not on the list while Nvidia and Intel are. Since I had to get a Google phone for grapheneos, second hand one at least prevented me from handing money to Google.

    There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but that doesn’t mean people can’t utilize the BDS movement to inform them on how to avoid the companies that contribute the most to Israel’s genocidal apartheid state.