You're forcing me to arrive at the conclusion the other commenter made. Involving a hit of the man sort.
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Kirk was incredibly annoying. Annoying enough for all this... well, clearly ol' Tyler made his decision on that front (allegedly).
Being a "vaguely right winger with indescribable politics" is basically 90% of Americans though. I think this guy was definitely more dabbling in the 4chan style memes which are more right wing. Based on the bullet casings.
I did say before he was 100% a groyper. I later made a comment responding to someone where I sort of toned that down to 100% terminally online, 4chan, "gamer culture." Basically aligned heavily and integrated into those communities based on the "memes." 4chan, for the record, is packed to the gills with Nazis who are furries, pro-LGBTQ to varying degrees, etc. One moment they're talking about hailing Adolf and the next they're talking about wanting an anime catboy partner or whatever. It's been that way for at least 15 years. (And of course many are super hardcore against any thing viewed as not "cishet white people" across the board.)
The political views the average American can simultaneously hold in their mind, while remaining resolute that they are not political views at all, is honestly incredible.
I could also make a game company named after my distant cousin "Mario" and name it "Hyper Mario Land"
How would Nintendo respond in that scenario?
But either way my hypotheticals are irrelevant and not anywhere near the reality of Theil just straightforwardly lifting names from Tolkien and doing so repeatedly. They're not like common names either. Did the word Palantir exist before he published LotR? Obviously Tolkien "borrowed" (ripped off in some cases) from like Finnish mythology and others. I wouldn't expect words like "Wizard" or "Elf" to be protected in anyway. "Hobbit" though? Well, I dunno. "Palantir"? "Nazgûl" (why the fuck does Apple auto correct that spelling)?
Look, I'm feeling gross typing all this pro-corpo sounding stuff. I just want Theil to lose lots of money. However that can happen is fine with me. It's also personally annoying to me that he keeps using LotR stuff. It's cringe as fuck, and I'm pretty sure he couldn't even explain why he thinks the names fit. Although Palantir sigh does sort of fit. In a round about way anyway.
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Shred the evidence or "shred" the evidence or shred "the evidence"?
Sir, I'm standing by, shredder oiled and ready. I require quotation marks to indicate the stress in the sentence, sir. Please. Sir.
(This is not a snarky question)
How is "meme posting" or "shit posting" while engaged in a high profile murder not nihilistic? If there's no discernible political message to be found here it just becomes destruction for destruction's sake. What else is that?
Encourage right wingers to assault the most vulnerable
Use that as an excuse to destroy any semblance of refuge they have (already basically zero) using sanctioned state violence
Use the mere existence of violence happening, with no context of the immediate or broader reasons, as an excuse to pressure more national guard deployments. Currently mostly an "aesthetics" deployment. Going forward... who knows
Around and around the sanitarium we go, who will stay sane we may never know
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No, no. Make it more obvious.
Yeah, they literally are. That's always been one tactic embraced by Zionists. Make the gentiles in their home countries more antisemitic, tell Jews all over the world their only safe place is Israel, and get them to move to Israel.
This type of bullshit also helps feed censorship campaigns. Netanyahu didn't even blink for a moment when Kirk got his neck blown out. He knew that it doesn't matter who shot Kirk: blame anti-Israel activists. That includes the actually antisemitic ones (Fuentes, Candace Owens, Tucker (probably), etc.) and those on the left who protest and dislike Israel because of its purpose in the empire and what it has been doing for going on a century to Palestinians.
If I would suggest one thing to "my enemies" it would be something like "No one is ever going to believe the "He was a left winger!" narrative. Bill fucking Maher even recognizes it was likely a groyper. Just go with "He did this because Kirk supported Israel!""
I think all the Nazis are too horned up over bashing the left for a clearly not-left inspired event that they're dropping a possible narrative that would be far easier to sell (since groypers are actually anti-Israel. Also they're actually antisemitic.). It still wouldn't work, but they'd at least find more popular support beyond the elites in the media. The public doesn't give a flying fuck about Kirk nor know who he was. You don't uphold that ugly tiny-face. You claim it was anti-Israel, antisemitic terrorism coming from those on the right who hate Trump for his Israel support. And the left too! It even flows better with their other narratives like the PA governor who had his mansion set on fire by a crazy person (like literally they were having delusions. It wasn't an ideological thing. Though Shapiro is a huge gross Zionist). Those embassy Zionists who got blasted. Probably some other stuff.
Just blaming "the left" seems like ball dropping of historic levels if their actual goal is to suppress ant-Israel sentiments. There is no left in the US. There are a fuckload of right wingers though and many of them now despise Israel. Even if they execute every single leftist the libs also hate Israel now. Good fucking luck with all this shit, guys! I'd suggest not starving and bombing children as a start!
Nick Fuentes
Famously far left
China, you announce this after you've arrested the CEO. 🤦
If anyone has the infinite money pool to explore such things it would be the Tolkien estate and the studios who either own or licensed the IP for The Hobbit, LotR, etc.
I'd say if he had stopped at Palantir maybe be could have a good counter argument. He's very clearly just ripping every single "evil" object, creature, whatever else he can from the books though.
I don't think there's confusion for most people over the original source of the names. He's definitely using the names to get more attention though. I feel at the very least he should be paying them some sort of licensing fee. I'm surprised they haven't already tried something. Nintendo would certainly not let someone name their evil company Bowser's Warship (I dunno, just trying to think of something close to similar). They'd at least send a C&D and review their options if the company ignored them. Maybe I'm crazy.
I'd normally never support such pettiness from trademark holders and whatnot. But I'd seriously like the Tolkien estate to do something really funny.
Yeah this is the main thing for sure
There's also some amount of like Kirk being viewed as the institutionalist to some degree. That sounds insane, but just saying. Kirk was all onboard team-Republican whatever that message might be. Fuentes seeks a much more, I dunno what word to use, "extremist" I guess, direction for the American right. He's basically all in on just doing genocides with no apologies or hiding it. He's an open white nationalist. He literally said Kirk didn't support white people (this was prior to Kirk's death) presumably because of support for Israel which of course they view as Jewish and "not white."
Truly Hitlerian stuff. Which again sounds insane considering Kirk was very Hitlerian. Not Hitlerian enough though for some Hitlerians. American politics in a nutshell. Fundamentalist Hitlerians vs The Hitler Reformation movement. Or something.
He's still sticking to something resembling the law which is odd in a way. Why bother? He already violated it with LA. The liberals have all collectively bent the knee or committed mass suicide since January, so why bother pretending to care that the Illinois governor said "no." Yeah it would result if a possibly insane situation and "constitutional crisis" but is that not what these guys are purposely doing anyway? They're just breaking all the institutions without much of anything seemingly planned on the other side. Nothing beyond lofty meaningless rhetoric anyway. The dumbest thing possible.
How many people at these conferences are asking him why he keeps calling Nick Fuentes a leftist?
I wonder if his little doggy Kash even bothered giving him the truth or just lied to him knowing he prefers to slurp that bullshit down rather than being aware of it actively.
It's almost comical but identifying a nonexistent group which is really an entire ideology which the US at least pretends to be in favor of... to be terrorists. It's not even worth typing it. Band of Brothers is officially illegal though. Soon ICE is gonna summarily execute the like 2 remaining WWII vets. They talked about fighting fascism. Hey, can't have that. You don't like Hitler? To the camps.
You just know the Nazis and hogs are gonna eat this shit right out of his gaping asshole. Zero pausing to wonder about future ramifications if the pendulum swings against them even for a brief moment. Full steam ahead on human and civil rights abuses.
Yeah.
Also the choice of target matters. The reason I overlook Luigi's disjointed but definitely right wing politics (he's an average American in that way) is because he arrived at a valid target. Allegedly. Free Luigi.
I'm never going to pretend to feel an ounce of anything for Kirk. At the end of the day though, despite his apparent rising prominence (even though I highly suspect that was astroturfed and basically "not real"), I don't feel he was the correct or even a beneficial target to take out for any cause I would like to see advanced.
Another vapid soulless husk will be propped up in his spot once they shovel his corpse into the ground. He'll be forgotten except on some dumbshit yearly remembrance thing right wingers jack off to.
While a CEO is and was easily replaced, I can't argue much with that target. Everyone in the country and world hates those guys. Especially fucking health insurance CEOs. The only more popular target might be, I dunno, a Black[noun] CEO. I'll avoid naming names because I don't want some jackbooted eighth grade dropout kicking my door in and demanding I... stop observing reality.
When I saw that video of Luigi (allegedly) I had to rewatch it like 100 times. He made that shit look so fucking effortless and cool. It helped that the target 100% deserved it. I think I even laughed a little bit. It's probably a reflection on how good things still surprisingly are for Americans that every kid from like 16-25 wasn't immediately 3D printing guns and you know. Practicing. In a legal, safe environment.
If they keep dropping quality of life... history already says what the results will be. On one hand millions of people will have a miserable existence. On the other hand when people have absolutely nothing to live for they might start tossing dynamite at the Tsar. Probably something would-be Tsars should consider.
I mean besides all the "memes" being fairly straightforwardly groyper stuff?
Definitely terminally online. Deep into "gaming" (derogatory) "culture." 4chan stuff.
If the dude wasn't a groyper somehow then he's whatever you call someone who is a groyper in every other sense except they don't watch Fuentes and don't identify as a part of that sort of segment of the online right wing. I would personally just call that a groyper and move on. If you're putting 4chan memes on bullet casings to shoot someone, anyone, you know. That's some groyped up loser shit.
Luigi also (allegedly. He's innocent) had writings on the casings, but his was not steeped in deep blackpilled, 4chan, groyper style "memes." So he isn't thrown in with groypers even though his ideology also seems to have been mostly far right wing with the exception of a personal grudge with the healthcare industry in the US.
I'm not just calling all these groypers for fun or out of hand. Had he not targeted Kirk (Fuentes target for months/years) and had he not wrote on the casings, I'd probably just say "Typical deadender blackpilled school shooter looking to make his name famous." But I can tack on groyper because signs point that way. "Best case" is he was essentially aligned with groypers but somehow wasn't explicitly one. To me that doesn't matter much. 🤷
I guess groypers who maybe had a romantic relationship with a LGBTQ person are "leftists" now.
Fuentes will be interested in this new development. He did allegedly suck off a fellow fascist one time. Someone get him a copy of Capital. Welcome!
They should definitely bury him in Arlington. Really just spit in the faces of the "vets good!" chuds who love Trump but find his sycophants a bit... gross. Physically and in other ways.
Ok if you're worried about your "love" maybe don't fucking murder someone and then indirectly implicate them in your crime by immediately messaging them and admitting it. Maybe skip the whole murdering part tbh. I dunno.
That sentence just comes off crazy to me. "I'm worried about you. Oh btw, let me confess all this shit so you're now obligated to snitch on me to police otherwise you're committing a pretty serious crime. I'm sure they and the media will be very normal and treat you as an innocent bystander to all this."
People talk about trauma dumping, but goddamn. This is criminal (heh) levels. I feel bad for this person.