I don't know why you got this heavily down voted. Bernie is great, but it's a valid point and worth saying. Feels like the initial wholesome upvote when disagreeing on Lemmy got replaced by classic Reddit "how dare you have a different opinion?".
I was responding to a comment that naively implied Dems policy applied to not upsetting majority of voters, like it was purely middle of the road acceptable stuff. It is not, and we shouldn't pretend it is.
Trump won because he talked about the shit folk cared about (economy and jobs). He was lying obviously, but Dems had a more decent candidate and put nothing forward. You have to say what you'll do, not what you won't. Dems priority is keeping a moderate grip on selections. They stiffed Bernie and got through coronation of Harris.
Any reasonable candidate and message and they'd win. See Mamdani for more information.
But surely they'll have a good candidate for next election because they learned right? Yeah no. The DNC seems focussed on ROI for their donors.
Saying that, I'd still vote for them, but this whole blame voters is BS. It won't change people's minds. Just remind them that the rank and file as well as the leadership are toxic and reinforce in those people's heads that they made the correct choice. Telling people they're wrong is the worst way to persuade people. It gets folks backs up, and they'll stubbornly argue green is orange. It's effectively campaigning for the Republicans.
Folk need to understand psychology if they want to be a political activist. Without it, the risk of self-gratification and self-validation is the only achievement.
I don't think anyone said banning plastics, but, we can easily cut down on usage for single use, or fishing nets (that get dumped to disintegrate). It's used mostly because it's cheap, but sometimes the recyclability decrease means there is a hidden cost, and it's the planet that suffers. Plastic will be useful for a long time, but it's usage should be justified, rather than for cost reasons only. There needs to be investigations into sources of microplastic pollution and legislative actions to address it. We know it's there and it's not good for us. There is scientific evidence in support of that. We now need to know why and how, and act.
The planet can no longer suffer from the Tragedy of the Commons. It is ours and we must protect it from exploitation by capitalists.
I like how you call out my tone, but don't see any responsibility on yourself for how you conduct yourself. It's your choice. Treat folk how you want to be treated. Complaining after the event is pointless.
My line of argument is less flawed than you think, I just see things from a different perspective. I see technology as acompliment to our lives. You seem to imply you have to compromise life, health, the planet in the name of progress. Progress of course is currently defined by the market and what companies invest in and lobby for. You place a lot of trust in their custodianship and are combatting anyone who resists. If you think you're more left, I think you really need to look deeper into your perspective and what it is influenced by. Trust and entertain your imagination. We can push and move the goalposts. Define the rules. We have a seat at the table and power to influence things if we choose to use our voice.
We used Asbestos for decades as we couldn't quantify or prove the risks. Thousands got cancer and died because we waited for more evidence. Even when we had doubts.
The Precautionary Principle exists... "The precautionary principle (or precautionary approach) is a broad epistemological, philosophical and legal approach to innovations with potential for causing harm when extensive scientific knowledge on the matter is lacking. It emphasizes caution, pausing and review before leaping into new innovations that may prove disastrous.".
Your let's wait for proof is straight out the playbook of corporate lobbyists. A delay and profit strategy. If anything is unscientific. It's your, we have no conclusive proof so let's keep flying to the sun and see what happens. I value health over profit though. I guess that might be where we differ.
I'm not. I'm just stating a fact, no employer has made me do someone's job. There are certain labour protections in place. It's not great, but it's far better than the US. "At will" is not a thing that exists here. We have 25+ days holiday + bank holidays. It's objectively better than the US. Not because of the government, but because of hard earned rights fought for by unions and working people.
Maybe recruiter referral reward. They sometimes pay in gift cards.