Cynical and bitter mutualist & consequentialist. I hate accelerationists and their apologists as much as I hate fascists.
I used to want good things, but everyone else seems to be fine with bad things. So now I'm pro-vacuum decay event.
I don't have access to this account on non-work days
I mean, eventually there are going to be people with camera's stealthily integrated directly into their eyeballs recording non-stop.
Like that black mirror episode letting people relive any moment from their past.
Couldn't people who specifically want to stealthily record people just turn off the bluetooth?
I've done a terrible job maybe of explaining what happened to me mentally and my current motivations. I don't care about whether I could have changed people's vote or whether I could motivate them to vote at all. That isn't where we meaningfully disagree I think.
Before November 2024, I thought most people were OK. I wanted good things to happen because I thought most people deserve good things. I understood that there was a portion of people who were terrible pieces of shit, but that they were a minority. That people permitted Trump to win the first time both because they understandably (if a little stupidly) thought "give him a chance" or "things will hold together" or even "yeah no chance he wins anyway I'm staying home."
After Trump won again though, this illusion was completely shattered. I realized that I was surrounded by far more awful and petulantly stupid people than I could have imagined. And my desire for good things for most people has almost completely evaporated. I feel a pure existential and near suicidal dread. I feel devastatingly alone and there is no escape. I'm surrounded by troglodytes.
And I can't delude myself out of it. I wish I could. This account represents me lashing out and screaming into the void.
Well, ok you are a different person that I was asking. I was asking because I assumed they were accelerationist or something.
I used to do the same. I guess technically that's part of why I have the job I have. I applied because it seemed socially meaningful.
The people around me all think I'm a sweetheart and I'm just fucking dead inside.
You know, I met 2 people at a bar I frequent who literally told me they were lefty accelerationists. That they try and purposefully push people to revolutionary potential, even if it means making things worse first. They were happy Trump won. To be honest I was really shocked to meet any in person. I thought they were all online mentally ill ML's. They're long time regulars at the bar, and friends to each other. I had seen them a number of times over the past year but this recent interaction was the first time I talked to them for any real length of time.
Ones a mechanic and a unlikable music snob. The other is squatting and seemed like the sort of person who was barely literate by choice, and was mostly just repeating what his friend believed.
I felt like, after they told me that, I had to steady myself. I was quite drunk and it took some will to not start getting openly aggravated. I just calmly told them bits of my own perspective and experience. It made them at least uncomfortable I think because they became very quiet.
I've not had a chance to talk to them again yet, just momentary "hey man"s and waves. I will eventually though. I have so many questions. I don't know that I'll like the answers.
Maybe I'll end up dead in a gutter because I got caught up in a stupid bar fight and got stabbed or some shit. lol
Give up on politics in any productive sense yes because its wasted my time and energy. It still is, I'm mostly just indulging in a habit at this point.
I'd be happier just going back and hanging out with normies and never discussing politics again. I'd be happier. I'd probably be wealthier and healthier had I been doing that for the past decade and a half of my life.
People like to joke that "liberals just want to go to brunch" and you know, I'm not a liberal (I don't agree with private ownership of the means of production) so I never really did that. I obsessed over shitty liberal rule and criticized them. But next time the libs take control (and the dems will eventually, the electorate loves to panic vote), I'm going to actually do that. I'm going to do the thing you accelerationists accused me of doing. Make sure I save up during the 4 or so years of mild stability, and go to some other country that isn't fucking stupid.
Maybe I wont live lavishly, moving is expensive, but I'm not sticking around to help people who gleefully dragged me into bullshit. And I know I'm not the only person thinking this.
Just a total waste.
Like what, spit it out. What other thing? Hmmm? HMMMM?
I'm guessing you can't. If its what I think you are suggesting, why should I serve accelerationists? Why should I help them? I fucking hate them. They're literally working to engineer this result. They wanted this result. FUCK THEM. I hope the leopards eat their faces.
Yeah man its all just an illusion right. All the leaders are coordinating in perfect harmony to manipulate me.
Biden, in his demented state, purposefully selected Harris to serve the interests of capital... and not his own ego because she was his VP. He wasn't insulted at all when they finally started to insist that he move aside and pick the least charismatic fucking option imaginable as a fuck you to the rest of his own party.
You know... sometimes people in power are just fucking stupid flawed narcissists. Just like the average dipshit voter is.
So wait, are you saying a violent rebellion is going to happen? You actually believe that we're on track for that?
And you think the mass death from that is going to be a good thing.
OK, even if I agreed with you fully, this doesn't really refute the fact that USAID being obliterated is still causing unnecessary harm that could have been avoided had Harris won.
Its all relative I guess.
If this caucus was sooo important, why didn’t the campaign change their positions?
Because the DNC would rather lose than not lick Israel's boots. I already FUCKING KNOW THIS. JFNIOAFN UIA. AHGHAIGMIOSAEN.
How dense can you be? Are you trying to give me a stroke? Please do because I want to become simple. The alcohol isn't working fast enough.
Also the "Schrödingers anti-genocide caucus" arguement can go either way. Its a 2 way street. If you don't think abstaining will influence the results of the election, why would you bother trying to use that to influence the DNC? If you think it does influence the results of an election, it means you acknowledge that you are increasing the risk of a fascist victory.
critique about placing some blame on voters
Do you believe in free will? Agency? Autonomy?
And we have the receipts. Telling voters they’ll just need to vote for the lessor evil won’t work. You won’t win an election that way. The idea that you can blame or shame voters into doing what you want doesn’t work. That is now established fact. We’ve run the experiment, multiple times now, and we’ve got the results. Creating the permission structure such that campaigns know they don’t need to respond to voters: this is what allows campaigns to maintain un-electable positions.
I'm blaming and shaming now because it doesn't matter. I know I can't blame and shame you into voting the way I want. I never tried to do that in 2024. I knew that before the election. I'm doing it now because even if the system itself is bad, the people within it have purposefully allowed it to get worse. Their motivations for why vary, but the result of their actions is the same. On an emotional level, I simply hate them.
I can be disgusted by multiple groups at the same time.
But ok, lets engage in your point: You know how voters could have, in our admittedly terrible election system, influence the democratic party's candidates? Voting in the fucking primaries. I wish the DNC had bothered to run one this time in 2024, but you know, they offered what they offered because Biden was an egotistical old fuckhead. Still better than fascism.
But you know dems did run primaries in 2016 and 2020, as much as I preferred Sanders over both HRC and Biden... Sanders lost the primary. Because not enough people who supported Sanders voted in the primary. And the first time this happened in 2016, people who supported Sanders (even ones that did not fucking vote for him in the primary) decided not to vote in the general because he lost the primary and we got Trump Round 1. FUCK THOSE PEOPLE.
The only reason Biden barely skated by was because of how bad things had gotten under Trump by 2020. If people weren't fucking morons, it would have been a blow out in both scenarios in favor of democrats, regardless of the candidate.
We already agree: the Democratic party fucked up electorally but multiple things can be true at the same time. You seem to think voters are blameless.
I am not going to fight and die in your stupid dumb fuck revolution (that will happen any day now I'm sure).
My tactics have changed: Understand that I can't fix things. That I am wasting my short life trying to. Its time to seek the most pleasant oblivion.
The alternative tactic... also would have resulted in Trump winning.
Go far enough, there wont be historians.
What you need to get through your head is that the group of people actively advocating for the abstaining of voting is why 6% did not vote for the lesser evil. At the same level of blame that the DNC lick's Israel's boots. And the 6% itself deserves this outcome, because we have FIRST PAST THE POST.
We did not have a primary. We should have. That's a failure of the DNC and Biden as well.
So, given that I understand that the DNC as villains. That Israel are villains. MAGA are obviously all villains. Where does this leave left leaning independents and potential dem voters?
Each potential voter had a simple moral calculus in front of them:
Potential dem voters who did #1 are not the bad guys. #2 made an explicit choice and are scum, just like MAGA. Just like the DNC. Just like Biden.
This isn't to say the every person who fits into category #1 is blameless: if they advocated for centrists or were pro-israel, yeah, they fit into the same as the DNC category. But the vast majority of the people who fit into category #1 did not do that. You suggesting such is incredible delusion.
Tactically, it meant I reduced the risk of Trump winning. Him winning doesn't mean abstaining from voting would have achieved that end better.
You think this is some kind of gotcha, but you are still just demonstrating a lack of understanding of what tactic's mean. You can make tactically sound actions and still lose you fucking idiot.
Voting for Harris wasn't voting for genocide, because it ultimately did not matter if the GOP won or if the Dems won in terms of what happened to the Palestinians.
In fact, letting Trump win probably made it worse for the Palestinians.
I voted to save immigrants from what's happening now to them. I voted to protect the poor from the GOP's austerity. I voted to prevent an even more conservative SCOTUS. I voted for the tiny hope of fixing women's bodily autonomy and healthcare in this country. I voted to prevent the death cult evangelicals and white supremacists from gaining more power in our government.
My co-worker has family in Mexico that shes terrified for because this admin's moronic and destructive actions of killing El Mencho have put them directly in danger and will do zero to help with drug related deaths.
I know trans people who literally want to flee this country and can't because of the gender on their fucking passport.
My mom is worried about being able to vote because she did not change her fucking last name back to her maiden name when she divorced my piece of shit republican father and now there is legislation meant to suppress her vote.
I voted to try and prevent all of this. FUCK YOU, YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT. YOU'RE A FUCKING WORTHLESS IMBECILE. You are not my ally or an ally of the innocent people this has hurt. You enabled this misery, and I hate you for it. I despise you at the very core of my being.
They were a necessary sacrifice? Wait you are going to need to elaborate.
There are many ways to interpret this response. Some are reasonable (HRC did pied piper because she thought it'd help her win) and some are unhinged and stupid (Liberals are fascists).
My tactics were to vote in primaries (when they were available...) for progressive dems. I voted for Bernie Sander's twice. But then I voted HRC and Biden, and Harris when they were the liberal slop candidates that we got. Because the alternative was helping a fascist win.
My tactics were to canvass, advocate, donate time and money to progressive causes. And when the progressives did not fucking win the primaries, I gritted my teeth and did the same for the centrist dems.
And you know what, sure. Those tactics failed, because US citizens on average are completely selfish and stupid pieces of shit. I don't owe your glorious revolution my life. I did not choose to be here in this hellscape, that your own advocacy helped create.
I need to find someone like you in my area, I'm trying to lose myself and sex is generally a good way to do so but I need to get my hetero on. Plenty of gay/bi dudes ready to get down but not enough good horny straight/bi lady's.