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  • Statue of Liberty Shut Down by Protesters Calling for Gaza Cease-fire

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  • Israel mainly kills innocent civilians

    You mean during this war or before? If during, then yeah probably (although Hamas won't release the numbers of terrorists/civilians killed) But again, that's just war, and war is horrible. We can all agree on that.

    And about 2023 being the deadliest one - it's so much more nuanced than this - it's indeed the Israeli government's fault that things escalated since it's one of the most right-wing governments Israel has ever seen - and their lack of competence should and is blamed for the escalation and for allowing such a major attack to happen. Israel's government has a lot to answer after this war, to a lot of people - especially to Israelis.

    That is to say, the escalation in violence was in the west bank, not in Gaza. Gaza was a relatively quiet area for months up until the attack (except for disturbenceses on the fence which Israel stupidly disregarded)

    obviously when people say cease fire they mean a real one

    Then by that standard there have been 0 cease fires in Gaza since Hamas took over. Rockets are fired from Gaza at least once a year - is that peace in your eyes? Calling for it now after all those years is just ridiculous. Maybe a pause for humanitarian aid, but ceasefire? Basically giving Gaza back to Hamas? What sane Israeli would live in one of the slaughtered Kibutz while Hamas is still in power?

    A failure. That doesn't justify genocide of people

    War != Genocide. They both have massive civilian deaths - but it's an important distinction. The 7/10 attack does indeed justify entering a war - where sadly lots of civilians are killed. Poor Gazans have both Israel and Hamas to blame for allowing this war to happen.

  • Statue of Liberty Shut Down by Protesters Calling for Gaza Cease-fire

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  • a cease fire means no more dead anyone

    On 6/10 there was a cease fire - that didn't prevent Israelis from being slaughtered. Hamas showed no* indication of stopping their massacares. In fact, they did the opposite - they only talk about how glad they are with the massacare and how they intend to do that again.

    Israel is perfectly capable of defending itself without comitting genocide

    Then what was the 7/10 attack? Even with oppressing the region they can't defend against such terror acts without their air force.

  • Alabama Mayor Kills Self After Right-Wing Blog Outs His Cross-Dressing

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  • Yo what's up with lemmy's being psychos saying they don't care he died since he was a republican

    The man was publicly humiliated (by his standards) to the whole world and ya'll encourage it?

    Whoever published the blog should be sentenced.

  • Hamas blocks foreign nationals from leaving Gaza

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  • Not doing any of this stuff would've meant a Palestinian state in Gaza led by Hamas.

    Such a state would've killed many more jews.

    Is it really that hard to see such obvious facts? What action has Palestinian ever done to warrant faith from the Israeli side that they wouldn't get massacres if Palestinians had a state.

    It's as simple as that. Make Israelis not feel threatened, make a state. Do make Israelis feel threatened, get oppression.

    And no other country in the world would do differently when feeling threatened. Some would do actual genocide and have 2 million dead.

  • Hamas blocks foreign nationals from leaving Gaza

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  • For more than the last decade Israel spent 0 efforts on raising the Gaza population and completely left them to run their own educational/inner governmental funding. That proved to be the worst mistake they could ever do, as that educational program is pure hate fuel for religious extremists and the government funding (which btw is a lot of funding from foreigners) was used for rockets and anti-tank ammunition instead of safe houses for civilians. Heck, the only safe zones are the underground tunnels, which are only used for Hamas fighters.

    All that means is that Israel should've either completely hammer down on stuff going in, and truly be like china murdering muslims, or completely run the region themselves, which is basically colonialism. Which option is good? None. Who can be blamed for that? The Palestinians leaders.

    Don't get me wrong, Israel's leaders also chose a very bad option of leaving it alone and letting it grow into a monster, but let's face it - they had no good options on what to do with Gaza. So blaming everything that's happening purely on Israel, is just unfair. What could they have done to prevent this?

  • GAZA: 3,195 children killed in three weeks surpasses annual number of children killed in conflict zones since 2019

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  • They control everything in and out huh... Does that include the rockets and anti-tank ammunition Hamas has?

    Give me a break. They had a free hand running their own region for over a decade, and that's what came out of it. Lots of military means - zero safe zones for civilians.

  • GAZA: 3,195 children killed in three weeks surpasses annual number of children killed in conflict zones since 2019

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  • They use their power only when needed, which is very frequently given that their neighbors advocate for civilians giving away their lives to serve a religious ideology, meaning they're under a constant threat on their safety.

    Yes, they're more powerful. But no, they don't only oppress using it. If they did, you'd have what china did to their muslim minority. The use of power is large, but not disproportionate to their level of security risk.

  • Hamas blocks foreign nationals from leaving Gaza

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  • I mean, exchanging prisoners means freeing those who massacred on oct.7, and come on, Israel is not that stupid to let them run free again. That exchange will bite them tenfold in years to come if they do it (and they realized it now, hence they don't agree to it)

  • Hamas blocks foreign nationals from leaving Gaza

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  • I mean, some of those 1,000 prisoners were active in that recent oct.7 massacre, so I guess that Israel learned from its mistakes. As much as it pains them, they can't effort giving Hamas forces, as they'll regret it tenfold later.

  • Hamas blocks foreign nationals from leaving Gaza

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  • Do you seriously think Israel shut off internet to hide what's inside? Do you know satellites exist? Do you know cameras exist? How in the world was that preventing anyone from seeing into Gaza?

  • Hamas blocks foreign nationals from leaving Gaza

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  • Then think again. They literally say what their goal is - a forceful end to Israel. And that nothing less will be enough - and that they'll keep killing civilians until that goal is met.

  • GAZA: 3,195 children killed in three weeks surpasses annual number of children killed in conflict zones since 2019

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  • Having power = the ones responsible?

    They have no power in Gaza. They haven't had any for the last 15 years. The ones in control of Gaza and its population id Hamas, and the ones who doesn't take care of poor Palestinians is Hamas. And the ones who get foreign aid and uses it for rockets instead of infrastructure is Hamas.

    Power != Responsibility. Life isn't spiderman.

  • GAZA: 3,195 children killed in three weeks surpasses annual number of children killed in conflict zones since 2019

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  • Legit the most sane person I saw on this platform.

    Congrats on not being brainwashed.

  • UN reports allege murder, maiming and arbitrary detention of Palestinian children

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  • Ah yes because murdering your own law abiding army serving citizens who are 100% a part of your society is the same as fighting a terrorist group who runs a region which isn't part of your country for over a decade.

    100% the same, let's mark jewish houses in Berlin since they're also obviously nazis. /s

  • Mass graves, unclaimed bodies and overcrowded cemeteries. The war robs Gaza of funeral rites

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  • You didn't read a word I typed? Again, blaming the children for that situation is just as effective as blaming Israelis for existing in their own state, on which they were born and raised. (Something that all Palestinian leaders are blaming every Israeli for, and are teaching their people to hate those same children who were just born there).

    And those same people, who were born and raised in their own country, didn't do anything to get the wrath of Hamas, yet here we are.

  • Mass graves, unclaimed bodies and overcrowded cemeteries. The war robs Gaza of funeral rites

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  • I love that now when it's against Palestinian everyone is saying "is it right to blame the child for their parents' aggression?"

    While for years that very same argument wasn't heard for Israelis when Palestinians yelled "from the river to the sea" and did an Intifada... Back then the left was focusing on "give them back the 48 land!"

    Makes you wonder huh.

  • Near-total internet blackout hits Gaza as Israel ramps up strikes

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  • Ya'll can't think for a second from a military perspective.

    No. This is not about hiding what they do - things will leak either way after the blackout is over - you can't erase data from people's devices.

    This is a 100% legitimate war tactic of breaking your enemie's communication, making them less prepared for combat and catching them by suprise.

    If ya'll are pro palestinian then you're also anti-Hamas, and that's a 100% anti-Hamas move. That's a good sign of Hamas about to take a massive hit.

  • Near-total internet blackout hits Gaza as Israel ramps up strikes

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  • Can nobody here think like a military just for one second and understand that they don't care about spread of information? That information will be leaked after the blackouts are over, nothing can change that. That blackout is purely so that Hamas would lose their communication capabilities. It's a classic proven war tactic and a totally legit one.

  • Gazans forced to drink dirty, salty water as the fuel needed to run water systems runs out

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  • A) is it the responsibility of a foreign neighbor or the running government to handle an emergency situation? By the way, the running government is Hamas.

    B) how exactly would Israel give those hospitals fuel? They'll drive down gaza boulevard with a fuel truck and just give it to the hospital? Without kidnapped drivers and stolen fuel by Hamas? Even if they did manage a way for the fuel to reach the hospital - Hamas is governing Gaza, and will steal (at least some) of that fuel to fund their war against Israel. Hence Israel has 0 incentive or responsibility to give fuel when it'll come around to bite them in the ass when it'll be used to power rockets.