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  • Harris says US will ‘under no circumstances’ permit forced relocation of Palestinians

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  • "murder does not justify more murder"

    The murder which is happening is by a war. If you don't know that, you're living under a rock. And what I said, is that this war is justified. So yes, this is exactly what you said, you just deny it. War = murder. "Murder isn't justified" -> "war isn't justified". Very simple logic.

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  • Dude those same civilian facilities are proven to store artillery. Once a site is being used for war purposes, don't be surprised that it's being destroyed - in a war.

    Everybody is criticizing Israel for bombing UN facilities, while no one critisizes Hamas for storing ammunition in said facilities. That's just hypocrisy.

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  • Oh so war is never justified then huh? When you've been massacared with intent for further destruction by that same people, you can't retaliate, you're just supposed to sit back and cry about it. Sure, ok.

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  • Oh damn I guess churchill is a murderer monster huh.

    Intention matters. The fact that you ignore it, is bad.

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  • Ummm what? What's propaganda about what he said? He just said Israel doesn't want Gaza and that Hamas wants the entirety of Israel. Which is completely correct, no matter how you look at it.

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  • By "past big conflicts" you mean the 48 war...? Because that's the only war where that happened

    And you can reasonably assume that things are different from 70 years ago, and that nobody, not even Israel, wants Gaza now.

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  • Lol what? Does anyone here think anyone in Israel is going to kill 2 million Gazans? It's like no one here knows the difference between mass killings and wars. You don't evacuate civilians in mass killings, you slaughter them in their homes (sort of like what Hamas did on 7/10)

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  • Better pushed out than slaughtered like Be'eri.

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  • Wait so 70% of Gazans were forcibly relocated, why 50% of Gaza are children under 18...

    Make up your mind over your made up numbers please.

    And calling this war "Israeli murder" is ignoring the existence of actual terrorists who keep innocent civilians hostage, and who targeted attacked and murdered over 1,000 innocents.

  • Biden Warns Israel Not to Occupy Gaza

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    1. Palestine denies the existence of Israel, even stated by the symbols of Hamas and the PLO, coloring the entire state of Israel as their territory. Now, who actually has the right to that land? The ones who bought those lands in the early 20th century and got a majority vote of the U.N to their creation alongside their neighbours? Or is it the ones who objected since the beginning up until today that no jew can rule any part of that land? The biggest diners of the other side's existence are the Palestinians. They have since the beginning denied the right for a jewish state to exist. Israel started to deny a Palestinian state to exist only after the arabs started an all-out war on Israel.
    2. Terrorist state? What does that even mean considering they Palestinians aren't their citizens? They're a state who has very hostile neighbours right next to them, and that acts with aggression to aggression. No act of violence against civilians has been started by the IDF, while hundreds of acts of violence have started against civilians by Hamas (the PLO don't directly do terrorism, but they pay terrorist jihad's families for killing innocents).
    3. Can you really say that Israel wishes for Hamas? Even after 7/10 can you seriously say that Israel wishes for such a violent terrorist organization to exist right next to their borders? If so then that's some severe case of Stockholm syndrome. Yes, Hamas is simpler to deal with politically, but it's so much more threatening and hard to deal with militarily. How are they supposed to fight people who hide amongst innocents? Hamas is probably the biggest headache to Israel ever. They ruin their relations with Suni arab countries, they make them look bad to the western world by making them bomb civilian infrastructure, and they actively pillage their villages for terror's sake. Seriously, how can Israel wish for that.

    Also let's be clear, what Israel wants is the entire land of Israel, including the west bank, all under jewish control. That's obviously their best scenario. Do they get what they wish? No. Do they work for it? Yeah. Can you blame them? Idk. Probably. They really should work more towards creating a Palestinian state in the west bank/gaza, but that could be said for the Palestinian leaders as well, who are still advocating for the entire annexation of Palestinians over the entire land of Israel ("from the river to the sea...").

  • Bowen: Ceasefire demands will grow without proof of Hamas HQ at Al-Shifa

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  • The military solution is to cleanse Hamas from power.

    Destroy all their terror resources, guns, rockets, tunnels. Then put someone else in power who doesn't advocate for and actively and successfully pursues the murder of all Israelis.

    And again, the bombings of civilian infrastructure would've been considered as war crimes if Hamas wasn't using them as bases of operations to carry out actual legitimate horrifying genocide against Israelis.

    Yes, Israel wants Gazans to stay poor. Coz when they're poor they can't do This

    I legit want to know what any of you have done if you were born Israelis. They act in the most humane way possible by anyone in the world, given their circumstances. The fact that their government isn't even more right wing, and isn't advocating the total destruction of Gaza is a shock to me. Their enemies are actively and successfully pursuing them in wars until all Israelis would die. Just imagine if someone like putin was in charge of Israel... Or Khamenei... 2 million would be either in Egypt, or in graves.

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  • "This guy with an absolutely more valid point of view doesn't agree with me so he's a douchebag" Sure. Ok. Whatever.

    And comparing this Gaza war with the rest of the world's conflicts is just absurd. No war in recent times has been with so many civilians around legitimate military targets, and that makes this war impossible to win without casualties. Not to mention almost half of Gaza are children, so that data is also heavily skewed.

    That same "refugee camp" was heavily populated by Hamas terrorists, which were located there for decades, in concrete buildings. Calling it an innocent refugee camp for the poor and helpless is a loooong stretch after what's been done in 7/10.

    Premature babies are evacuated by the IDF when they arrive at the hospital.

    And the geneva convention clearly states that deliberately fighting from civilian infrastructure is a violation of the geneva convention, and that once such a case has been made, that same infrastructure is a valid military target. No one cares when Hamas grossly and admittedly break the geneva convention because they're the poor side.

  • Here's your mirror kings

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  • "I used the chad meme so I'm correct"

  • Bowen: Ceasefire demands will grow without proof of Hamas HQ at Al-Shifa

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  • Um... Sources? First time I hear of them digging tunnels.

    But even if they did dig tunnels for non-military purposes in the 2000s, they have good intelligence of it being used as a military storehouse (even if you don't believe their intelligence, which is regarded as one of the best in the world by several nations worldwide, you can hear the same from 7/10 terrorists' testimonies in captivity). And it's proven that Hamas' strategy is digging tunnels for themselves, as in 2014 they used those tunnels in fighting the IDF and for invading bordering villages.

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  • You can choose not to believe it. But when there's footage of actual captured terrorists saying explicitly everything that they're being excused of, and when even the son of Hamas' leader is saying those same things aswell, then I just find it hard to ignore all that evidence. Hamas are publicly evil, advocating to death to all Israelis civilians (shooting rockets/terror attacks indiscriminately), and doing everything they can to prevent the existence of the more peaceful PLO in Gaza (via armed means, see their coup as an example...). So it's really not that hard to believe (given the evidence) that they're also evil towards their own population, and hide under civilian infrastructure, again, after so many testimonies and intelligence reports.

    And say what you want about the IDF, but multiple professional army personnel have advocated for how they're the most humane army in the world, doing the most out of any army in the world to make sure they don't target civilians. Do civilians still die? Yes. Is it unavoidable as an act of war? Yes. Are the IDF the best at mitigating those civilian deaths in the world? Yes.

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  • Bro what? Israel digging tunnels in Gaza?

    And I don't understand, you're saying it's better to bomb the hospital given it's acting as a military hub? That it's better to bomb it rather than taking it over?

    I'm so confused by your comment.

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  • Provided that hospital is used to store ammunition or as an escape route for terrorists - no. It's not insane that it's not condemned. Ukraine doesn't risk their citizens' lives by grossly breaking the geneva convention.

    The rules are different because the game is different. Ukraine is not Hamas.

  • CNN analysis: Video suggests IDF might have rearranged weaponry at Al-Shifa prior to news crew visits

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  • I'm just waiting for the mist of war to be over to see the actual truth. No proof can be verified now, and no actual real proof would be trusted by left media coverage. No information will be shown for the coming days.

    Just wait a few weeks then actually form an opinion on whether or not this war is justified, since without confidential information, nobody but Hamas, the U.S, and Israel knows.

  • TikTok says it’s not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine — The company denied allegations that it has been promoting pro-Palestine content in an effort to sway American opinion

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  • Israel is at the front of the war on the west, from Syria to Lebanon and Iran. It's in the west's interest that they exist and be strong to be a force in the middle east and defend the west from falling to jihadist rule.