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  • Germany had similar deportations before, and the previous ones consisted of foreign nationals who committed serious crimes in Germany, got their asylum cases rejected, and we're sent back to the country they came from.

  • Here's what article 14 says:

    Article 14

    1. Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
    2. This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

    The principle behind this article only applies to genuine cases of political prosecution, where the person seeking refuge is doing so in good faith. Countries can and often do reject asylum cases where the person seeking asylum either lies on their application or commits serious crimes inside the country they're seeking refuge in. I don't see these individuals being deported as a violation of this article.

  • Probably nothing. This is the Taliban we're talking about. They don't care about things crimes committed against non believers. All 20 of the deported are Afghani men, as long as they show loyalty to the Taliban, they'll probably be left alone.

    If someone is in Germany and is convicted of a crime then they have to go to prison in Germany.

    My understanding is that if they're convicted of a crime in Germany, they serve their sentence first and then get deported right after.

  • They're intentionally focusing on the wrong 1%. Going after trans people is meant to serve as a distraction.

  • It should be the opposite. This is the perfect example of why the death penalty should 100% be abolished. Right now they're going after driver licenses and bathroom usage, but the slippery slope is very slippery. It won't take much for them to make being trans an illegal offense punishable by death.

  • What human rights are being violated here? Immigrating to Germany or any country is not a right, it's a privilege. These individuals went to Germany illegally, then committed serious crimes, were found guilty, and now they're getting deported back to their country because they longer qualify for asylum. This is like the most basic and most common sense immigration policy to have, calling it a human rights violation is asinine.

  • They're not being deported as a punishment, they're being deported because they're in Germany illegal and are no longer qualified to have an asylum case, so they're being sent back to their country.

  • You sound dumb as hell. These 20 are literally Afghan nationals who entered Germany illegally, committed heinous crimes, got convicted in courts, and they're being sent back to their country because they'll never get approved for asylum. How can anyone feel any sort of sympathy to literal rapists and drug traffickers?

  • Look at who's being deported before you write something dumb

  • The 20 being deported are convicted rapists and drug traffickers who were in Germany illegally. These are not the people you want to defend.

  • Is there like a database that keeps track of things like this? Not just deaths, but also things like arrests, suspicious disappearances and the like. I feel like that would be a very useful tool for these types of discussions. I'm sure the top performers are going to be the ones we suspect the most, but having the ability to visualize the data can give some pretty good insights nonetheless.

  • Controversial opinion: The point of college is NOT to prepare students to be "work ready" if that makes sense. The point of college is to give you the critical thinking skills necessary to be able to learn, grow, and make decisions on your own as an adult professional. Whatever technical knowledge carries over to your job is just a bonus.

  • No, we're not. You're trying to change the hypothetical to feed your hate masturbation of the US. Just as a reminder, this is the hypothetical we're discussing:

    Theoretically… what would happen if Iran or someone else happens to magically sink this thing, fighter jets and all?

    All the other details are made up by you so you can justify indulging in the preconceived narratives you already subscribed to. Given the original hypothetical, if Iran were to attack and sink this carrier, that would be a direct attack on the US, therefore it would be a justifiable cause for war. This is true for all countries that have their flagship attacked and sunk. Your seething hatred of the US won't change this reality just because you don't like it.

    But it's funny how turned out to be exactly as I said word for word. You have no morals, you're hateful to the point where it's irrational and you're trying to convince yourself that it's okay under the guise of morality. It's irrational to the point where you can't even help but make up details to alter a hypothetical. That level of dishonesty makes you a lost cause dude.

  • You really are a dolt, we're talking about a hypothetical situation where Iran does actually attack or sink the Ford carrier. That is a justifiable grounds for war for any country, not just the US.

  • I mean from Pakistan's perspective an unstable Iran is bad news for them because they're a borderline failed state. There's series of independence movements in Balochistan and Sindh. Also the Taliban wants annex half the country to unite all the Pashtuns and India wants to annex all of Kashmir. So I could definitely see them supporting the Iranian regime. I don't think your assumption there is wrong. There's validity in using Pakistan as your example. It's just a matter of how far they're willing to go. I simply don't see any scenario of Pakistan using their nukes under any circumstance related to Iran, and I don't think Pakistan will do anything to trigger a war with the US, especially something as extreme as nuking the Ford carrier.

  • I'm obviously against it, but it's also entirely irrelevant. The fact that you're so desperately chasing smooth brained "gotchas" just shows how disingenuous you are.

  • I shudder at the thought of anything being named after Dick Cheney

  • The feeling is mutual

  • I'm an Iraqi. I lived there. The birthplace location on my passport says "Baghdad, Iraq". My family has literally lived through these events. I have family in both Iraq and Iran. I know what happened to me, my family, and what's going on in my country, you don't. The sheer arrogance of you thinking that you could double down on lecturing me about my own lived experiences makes you a living example of the ignorant and chauvinistic westerner stereotype.

    Ahemd Al Basheer has 7.5 million subscribers on his youtube channel, and virtually all of those are Iraqis. He is an Iraqi who also lived through all these events who made a show exposing Iraq's problems to Iraqis in Iraqi Arabic. The only people who tune are Iraqis because other Arabs simply won't understand all the Iraqi references, jokes, and politics. It would be like Australians tuning in to Canadian political shows, it almost never happens. There's only like 46 million Iraqis in the world both in Iraq and diaspora. That means 16% of all Iraqis in the world watch this guy, and that's just going off of subscriber numbers. His channel more than 1.6 BILLION views. He's not some rando youtuber, he literally is one of the biggest voices in the country.

    Compare that to Hakim, who virtually no Iraqi has ever heard of. When Iraqis see the name Hakim, they think of the Egyptian singer, not this guy. He has a small channel of 300k subscribers that is exclusively in English catering to a Western Marxist audience. Meaning that all videos come from an ideological lens, which means he is inherently not objective or in tune with the rest of the country since the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are not Marixst. Regardless, his entire channel is designed to maximize profit from sponsorships, constant merch drops, ads, and begging people to subscribe to his Patreon in every god damn video. It's literally a grift. Oh also, this guy has a history of saying some vile shit like saying the ethnic cleansing under Stalin was a good thing or that the Soviet invasion of Poland was justified or him denying but also simultaneously praising the genocide that was committed by Saddam Hussein against the Kurds.

    Like this is the guy who you're proudly watching? This is your source of information on the country? If Hakim is where you get your info on Iraq, then you literally have no information hygiene. Let's take a second and consider the two options here. One is a Marxist grifter who spreads misinformation to appease an English speaking Western audience, the other one is one the most prominent figures in Iraqi culture and politics and his content is made for Iraqis... hmm, I wonder which one gives me better insight on the country.

    The fact that you don't even know who Ahmed Al Basheer even is or what he stand for tells me all I need to know about you. You know NOTHING about this country or this region of the world, yet you speak as if you know more than the people who lived through these events themselves. You don't understand Iraqi history, you don't know who the prominent Iraqi figures are, you can't speak our language, you know nothing about our culture, and you certainly don't know what we've been through. Like it's one thing to be ignorant, but it's another when you're doubling down on it. That's just Dunning–Kruger effect. If you're going to continue being a clown then you'll get treated like one.