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Doug [he/him]

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  • people only started using the new pronunciation in the last 10-15.

    As someone else pointed out already, this is untrue. While it may not have been popular in your circles, it definitely was in others. I've been saying it with a hard g as long as you have with a soft and I'm not the originator either.

    English linguistics doesn't indicate anything at all.

    They absolutely do. That's why you can sound out a word you've never seen before. You may not always be right when you do because they indicate, they don't define.

    There are no rules about word construction or pronunciation.

    There are, there are just exceptions. For example, an e at the end of the word is silent. I'm certain you can give me a word where it's not, but there are at least six in this paragraph alone where it is.

    if you are understood then you have pronounced them correctly

    In this logic if someone has been pronouncing a word all their life with a single pronunciation and travels to another location with a much different accent they can only now be pronouncing the word wrong.

    If understanding is also the only metric then a hard g would still be preferable. Not only does a written g tend to make people lean to a hard g in my experience, but there's more words that could be mistaken for a soft g pronunciation.

    You could argue that the original pronunciation is archaic,

    Could I not argue that the original pronunciation has fallen out of favor?

    the word itself is like 35 years old

    Is there a time requirement for pronunciations to become archaic?

    since there was only one acceptable pronunciation

    Which isn't a time that existed, as we've established

    who aren't likely to change.

    Given your stance on language this is absolutely a you problem. If the rest of us collectively decided to understand it as only with a hard g, you would not be understood and therefore be pronouncing it wrong by your own logic.

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  • Become popular? It's been popular roughly for the lifespan of the format. It's hardly language's fault the developer wanted to make an unfunny reference to a since forgotten peanut butter slogan.

    On the other hand linguistics indicate a hard g sound with the construction of the word, constituent words aside. Plenty of four letter words starting with the gi combo have a hard g, including but not limited to gift which you may notice is very similarly constructed.

    Whatever else the English language may throw at us, people appreciate consistency because we can make some sense of the world. A hard g is the consistent, predictable, sensible choice for the limited availability of those virtues English offers.

  • Florida attached to Europe looks mildly like a penis.

  • In fairness, Gmail had a similar invite system when it launched and that's been way more successful than G+

  • Hi! I'm sure someone will recognize me. Someone may even have insults to hurl. Go for it if you want, I'm not spending all day in this comment thread.

    But I do want to offer an outside perspective. I get the concept in the article re:"Stalin did nothing wrong" and I see how that has value from an internal perspective. However from an external one it looks as much like apologetics as someone saying "Benjamin Franklin did nothing wrong" does to you except they may not have the state of mind to be critical and self examining. That can quickly turn in to one of two things

    They take it at face value and assume you legitimately mean they did nothing wrong which it seems we already agree is incorrect.

    They assume you're trolling.

    In either of these circumstances nothing is accomplished but another wedge being driven between such a person and the message they need to hear.

    I get it, I do. If you say, "yeah they did this bad thing" then all too often they'll take that and run with it. But if you're not willing to be critical of leaders then how do you expect them to take you any more seriously than you take them?

    I don't say this because I think I'm more capable of whatever. I say this because I have a different perspective and a different opinion. I offer my perspective in kindness because if I can't do that then we won't be able to have any kind of discussion and we'll never find the unity I've seen this instance being purported to be about.

  • So I just tested this. I'm not at home so I had to VPN in which is no issue.

    • I opened graph.facebook.com and confirmed it was working
    • I opened and logged in to my Ally app
    • I added graph.facebook.com to my pi-hole's black list as a regex entry
    • I opened graph.facebook.com in the browser and confirmed it was blocked
    • I force closed and cleared the cache on my Ally app
    • I opened and logged in to my Ally app

    It's not the Meta connection that's giving you trouble.

  • So secure even you don't know the password. It's like built in MFA.

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