First, those are rookie numbers, gotta do better. Second, how does this break down by age? Is the anti-DS sentiment spread out across the age range evenly, or is it concentrated at one end or the other? Third, I don’t understand how one could be opposed to DS unless they’re already fabulously wealthy and an asshole. What makes somebody anti-DS?
I think it is, at least in the US. You’re asking people to be slightly uncomfortable, mildly inconvenienced, and/or be at a business disadvantage to those who aren’t concerned about conservation. Furthermore, a lot of people’s living situations and routines have been built around cheap energy. Asking people like that to vote for meaningfull conservation will go nowhere.
That’s why, imo, people in western countries won’t change their habits unless the energy market, nature, or the government coerces them. Hopefully the energy market can get them to change before nature starts making its position on the matter known to them personally. And if the government feels the need to get involved… oh boy they’re going to be mad.
Side note, if you want to get a sense of the personal energy waste in the US, make a Nextdoor account and ask your neighborhood what people set their thermostats at. I was mortified.
You didn’t watch the video
You don’t change class when you become educated. You may change income brackets though. College education can turn you into a lawyer or into a doctor, but it is very unlikely to turn you into the inheritor of a multi-million company.
This got me thinking what exactly makes someone a member of the ownership class. I’d agree inheriting a multi-million company would make you a member, but does owning a small business with a few employees? How does debt factor into this? A business owner who’s trying to pay down their startup loans might feel more like working class than ownership.
Who is the ownership class?
Look at the specs on the site I linked boss
It uses an electric motor but it’s powered by a diesel engine. It does have electric retarding braking but I don’t see anything saying that energy is harvested and stored in a battery.
https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/new/equipment/off-highway-trucks/mining-trucks/15970073.html
Okay, I doubt the people who would find a real-life freedom party appealing haven’t read turtledove
I think the tribalism, purity testing, and mod power tripping is far worse here than reddit. I was banned from memes.ml two days ago for pointing out it’s in bad taste to celebrate the deaths of American soliders, and I totally don’t support at all what Americans are doing in Iran or Palestine. After a couple back and forths I was banned for spam. I was responding to comments, explaining my position, not spamming. Then to top it off, I was banned from privacy.ml yesterday. I saw a user I was arguing with the previous day using an argument I taught them. I literally explained something to them in a DM, and they were using it correctly against someone else, and I was again banned for “spam.” A single silly “I’m proud of you” comment. Granted it was obvious that they clearly didn’t like me but still, you can’t get caught doing that and not expect me to say something. Very immature.
What I find funny about it all is they’re banning someone who’s on their team. I’m on board with most of the stereotypical .ml ideology (I don’t think we’d get along OP), but some users, and especially those with power, have no tolerance for any dissent. I don’t even think I was dissenting, just saying the evil facist bootlicking troops probably aren’t as evil as they want them to be, so don’t cheer when they die. Is that really too much for some people?
As someone who doesn’t read Turtledove, what does that mean?
I’m so proud of you
The problem to surmount is the decades of propaganda making the word socialism somehow demonic and evil.
It’s probably easier to change the party’s name. Lets just call it the Freedom party, because it is.
Who actually identifies as Democrats?
Boomers, genX, and the blandest millenials.
I am not defending thugs, I’m defending misled kids
Yeah, you’re right. No 18 year old from America should be raping pillaging and murdering their way across the middle east.
Don’t you think that’s worse than condemning them?
What? If some American kid is raping pillaging and murdering anywhere they should be punished for those crimes.
They have a duty to refuse illegal orders, I am not supporting war crimes
Check your privilege bud
Ignorant doesn’t mean stupid, it means they don’t know something.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. You sound like a Christian damning the ignorant to hell because they never heard about Jesus and never thought to look. They don’t know. No 18 year old from middle America is going to find information on US imperialism unless they look for it, and there is nothing in their lives suggesting they look for it.
They don’t know they’re the fucking boot. I won’t give them praise but I will give them sympathy. They don’t know what they signed up for. They’re kids born into an echo chamber of American propaganda. They don’t know what they’re doing. Nobody at that age does. Don’t celebrate their deaths, they’re victims too.
That’s a fine idea but wouldn’t it be better to build out renewables specifically to decommission fossil generation.