Yeah and the countries that don’t will pass you by and become your next lords. It’s an unfortunate situation humankind is in.

Discomfort pay. I think doing disgusting or hard jobs should carry EXTRA pay.

Yeah but a degree is not a get-out-of-shit-job-free card… We all have to take what the market offers, or get creative, start a business, etc.

And it’s not like people without degrees don’t put effort into improving their skills.

As long as the majority of people can just forget unpleasant jobs exists and leave them to the less fortunate, the incentive to make them less shitty is weak.

“These jobs are below me! They should belong to the peasants!”

You should get income regardless

Don’t confuse technological and societal progress.

It may not be positive for society, but you still can’t stop progress, if you don’t develop what’s possible, someone else will.

Well it increases access to the issue tracker to people who have a discord account but not a GitHub or whatever account

If that’s what it takes for Americans to reach their limit and claw back some dignity from their owners…

Germans are exceptionally friendly in my experience.

source: I’m Italian and I’ve been to Germany several times for business and pleasure

Ass-club?

You still can’t stop progress, so you’ve got to solve that issue another way

Aside from what @SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone wrote, ideally we’ll reduce human labor to overseeing machines, at least on industrial lines, over time.

Yeah the disinfo theme is quite heavy handed

Ok, so a few points, from a lifelong industrial OEM technician:

First of all, there’s nothing wrong with factory jobs IF your employer takes care of its workers, that’s a big “if” but one all the world’s workers should take care of, since manufacturing is of course one of the biggest areas of employment and it’s not going away anytime soon.

My job, working for an equipment manufacturer, can be quite enjoyable and well paid, again depending on the employer, I’d advice any technically inclined individual to look into it. St the same time, I’d never work as a maintenance tech in a factory, that’s usually a very stressful job, with emergency work in poor condition, often pushed to work unsafely because of the rush, on old machines often dirty or in poor repair.
Still, I’ve seen some people make quite a comfortable position in that setting, so it may not be all bad.

As for pay, I think pay should depend mostly on 3 factors: effort, skill and comfort. Those who work harder, are more skilled and are forced into unpleasant settings should be paid more. If you want a more comfortable job you cannot expect to make more than a good, equally skilled worker who’s in noisy, dangerous or disgusting environments, and so on.

I don’t understand the intergenerational employment point, that sounds sorta dystopic and has no connection to the rest of the argument.

Still, safety standards were far from ideal at that time

No flouride in Florida?

And then remove part of it a year later when it transfers to him

'cause protestantism is a weak-ass religion. Catholicism is where the real money and power is

eh, it’s not all root, essentially just the binaries. /etc and /var are RW

did three major version upgrades so far and they have been flawless.

To be fair, I’ve upgraded normal Fedora for like… 8-10 versions in a row maybe, and never had a problem