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  • "...and then they came for me..."

  • A civil war would mean the Balkanization of the United States. We would become a collection of russias and North Koreas with a few Dubais thrown in. I cannot overstate how bad this would be. Millions dead. Unrecoverable economy. Oligarchs running city States. Do you want Jeff bezos to be a governor? Because that's how you get Jeff bezos as governor.

    The reformes you are suggesting would take a century and the 50 states would never be united again. I don't disagree that you are pointing out serious and actionable flaws but you are calling for nothing less than the complete destruction of America and likely a third of our people. Civil war is... Jesus.. I fucking hope we can hold our shit together.

  • I think before this is nightmare is over we will be measuring death tolls in multiples of the Holocaust. It really is time to leave if you can. The midterm elections will be the fulcrum point. In November they will know if they ever have to worry ever being voted out again.

    It's literally the fucking Confederacy. The civil war never ended for them. They hid in plain sight for a century and a half. How many people know that the "GOP" stands for "Grand Old Party"? They stopped calling themselves Republicans 30 years ago. We all think this coup is a sudden thing. Yeah.. the frogs are just now feeling the water get hot.

    The next step is punishment. Plain and simple.

  • Yep. And if you think they will stop with brown people, Martin Nemoller might have a thing or two to say. Once our elections go full Russia they'll come door to door for the guns. Every dictator disarms the population. Every dictator has labor camps. Every dictator has death squads. They will have lists of agitators, enemies of the state, and domestic terrorists. Trump has already talked about depopulating the US by 100 million people.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see this comment slid across an interrogation table at me one day.

    You don't give up your gun when they show up and not only will they all get automatic weapon boners until you're dead, you will be labeled a domestic terrorist and family will be punished. You will be LUCKY if your loved ones simply get chained to a drone factory. Worst case?? Wives and daughters become comfort women.

    Please.. please.. tell me I'm crazy and that this isn't the North Korea hellscape we're headed for.

  • I think the real answer is worse. ICE is creating labor camps. Slavery.

  • YA THINK?

  • NO...... I NEVER COULD HAVE GUESSED. TELL ME MORE. quick question... Water... Still wet? Asking for a friend.

  • Oh wait. Now we got him. Maga will finally see the truth. Yup. This is it. We finally have proof of high crimes and misdemeanors. Good sleuthing boys. Job well done. No way he escapes this scandal. Huh.. remember that word?... Scandal? Hm. Not really a thing these days. Anyway... I digress.... So happy. Today is truly a day that will be known forevermore as our new independence day. Yup. This was the straw. I can't believe I was alive for this moment. Our collective trauma can finally begin to heal. Our Republic can once again hold its head high on the world stage. Yes sir. Today you see American exceptionalism on full display. We had a problem and we got to work and fixed it. Super proud to wave the red white and blue again. No more fascism. No more SS. Once again the sun shines on the Constitution. All rights that were once trampled have now been restored. The concentration camps have seen the err of their ways. We got him. Surely no politician could ever survive such a damning revelation. We wake at the dawn is a new day. What once was lost has now been found. Yessir. The American Justice system has proven its superiority. The rule of law has been restored. So happy. All American rejoice in the changing of the guard Inhales deeply huuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh...... We are lucky to live in extraordinary times. On the 7th day we all rested. Love won. The victims will all see their retribution.

    Sigh.

  • Same as my opinion on walking though the self checkout line. My body my choice.

  • If maga successfully tigs the election to perfect a democratic takeover in November there will be tiananmen level event every week.

  • Trump is the face. The oligarchs are the movement. What we are dealing with is a long festering tumor that has metastasized. Trump is the irregular shaped mole on the surface. The cancer has been there since the civil war.

  • Personally I think the reason for the decline in American power is obvious. The civil war never ended. It just went cold. We have tolerated supporters of the Confederacy for so long the rest of us thought they had let it go.

    We thought allowing them to frame a violent coup against our government and the murder of fellow citizens as a dignified part of their heritage would foster inclusiveness and promote unity.

    We gave them the benefit of the doubt.

    We stayed silent when they rebranded the Republican party and the GOP. How many people know it stands for Grand Old Party? Sounds awfully 1800"s to me. Racists, Christians, militants, and more, all operated as splinter cells responding to dog whistle politics in lock step. For 40 years they have been gathering power in plain sight.

    In 2000 bush proved that the levers of government could be used to galvanized their base. Suddenly the concept of red and blue states was an accepted cultural division. The lines had been drawn. The only goal for the GOP was to weaken and obstruct the flow of governance.

    Then came the cool black guy and the shadow Confederacy collectively decided enough was enough. Suddenly we have the tea party. We have birthers. We had an entire political party determined to destroy what it couldn't improve, mere obstruction was not enough.

    Now recent history comes into focus. Why did they live Trump even though he was clearly appointing the worst possible candidates for every job? Why did the continue to support him despite blatant corruption? Why did they not care about his slide into authoritarianism? Why was it so culty?

    Because the modern Confederates never stopped wanting to destroy the US government. They were finally getting revenge. "Owning libs" and "anti woke" had nothing to do with Democrats. It was the final dog whistle to signal open warfare against the culture who defeated the South.

    They want to dismantle everything the US has accomplished since the civil war and to resume rebuilding it in their image as though Lincoln had never happened.

    To be absolutely clear. The US is currently undergoing a coup. All rights will be revoked. Everything that was "American" will end. There will be retribution for The War of Northern Aggression.

    There is no plan for governance. No happy ending; only punishment. What is to come will make Nazi Germany look like a rivalry between football fans. Holocaust level depopulations will be counted by the dozens.

    Once the government is effectively dissolved and the people broken, the oligarchs will balkanizethe remains and establish fidedoms and city States with enslaved populations.

    In 20 years the former United States will be a collection of North Koreas and Israels with city prisons and apartide oaises.

    Sweet dreams.

  • Substitute "the Confederacy" for the GOP and it makes a lot more sense. The civil war never ended. It has recently flared up from a smouldering cold war into a coup of the US government.

  • Trump is just a symptom. The christofascists in his ear are the sickness. Trump is there just to bulldoze through the Constitution and establish a one party system.

  • This gives me the feeling of American pride I've missed for so long.

  • Maybe not, but what I see is more ideologically in line with the Confederates than with the Nazis. That was the secret sauce the whole time. They want the entire US government to be reset to the antebellum era and to pick up as though Lincoln never existed.

  • You win

  • They are clearly trying to ensure that they will never be subject to a legitimate election again. Minnesota is a test for how many constitutional amendments they can break. Presidential term limits are absolutely the target. When the oligarchs no longer need their cult they will repeal the entire Constitution. Welcome to the New Confederacy.

  • I absolutely guarantee this is what he's actually building under the Epstein ballroom