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BlitzoTheOisSilent

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  • I Want to Give Up

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  • Democrats wanted to incrementally improve things.

    They've had four years to, and to the average American, they didn't. They improved things, but not enough for the average American to notice, or care.

    In comparison, regardless of how he did it, Trump got things done that his base wanted.

    Democrats are going to learn that they need to move further to the right to pick up votes. They've done it before, and they will do it again. They will look at the conservatives who voted and tailor a party platform for them.

    They did that this time and lost. They did it in 2016 and lost. The Democrats want a return to the status quo, and nothing else. Americans want change, the status quo is not working for them, but the Democrat party will not try to rally the vote. They scream about Republicans and voter suppression, but where's the law mandating voting? Or making it a federal holiday? Or requiring paid time off to vote for essential employees?

    You're talking about strategy, well, progressives want to align with the Democrats, right? The FPTP system only allows for two viable parties, right, because winner takes all, and third parties can't compete? Therefore, progressive third party candidates, under the current system, can't gain any political power because the system is broken, right?

    Ok, so let's work within the system we have. Republicans are fascist, not very progressive, guess that leaves the Democrats. And they seem open to it! But they keep telling us no, now's not the right time for XYZ, we don't have the support, we have to stop/prevent XYZ. We keep voicing concerns and want our issues addressed, and we keep being ignored, told we have to get back to normal before we can move forward, condescended to, or outright dismissed.

    You keep saying the Democrats will just keep moving right, and that's exactly the point I'm making, and the reason people didn't go out in droves for Harris. You keep saying the Democrats will just try to keep stealing Republican voters, well, then they deserve to lose. 37% of eligible voters vote, and instead of trying to garner that other 63% of the voters to come out, they'll cut off their nose to spite their face and refuse to adopt progressive, populist policies?

    You're basically telling me the Democrat's strategy is, "Do what we say or we'll become more like the fascists." Cool, so delayed fascism versus fascism... Hence "what difference does it make if our wants don't matter."

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  • Harris, with Democrats down ballot. My state also went for Harris, but we're not one of the ones that matters.

    As a trans woman, I don't have the luxury of voting my conscience and begrudgingly voted Harris despite her lackluster policies and genocide support.

    At the same time, I don't blame anyone who couldn't vote for her and chose to abstain or vote third party, because the Democrats didn't win their vote. The Democrats aren't entitled to someone's vote just because the opponent is a fascist, and maybe if they stopped acting like they deserve every election for simply not being a Republican and actually put forth progressive policies, they'd win.

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  • Throws your tantrum all you want, the Dems didn't get the votes they needed, and it's their lackluster campaigning that lost them the election.

    The voters don't owe candidates shit, especially when they're being promised four more years of Biden, but a pinch more progressive.

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  • I've written a lot of comments this morning, and I don't remember which one's I've said what in, so I apologize if I'm repeating something.

    I understand what you're saying, it's not fair that the Democrats have an unrealistic standard compared to the Republicans. But the Democrats have to figure that out and get over it, and they're just not.

    I'm seeing a lot of polls now showing the biggest factor for Americans voting was the economy. The economy has, verifiably, improved under Biden, and I will not argue against that.

    But polls also consistently show that, despite the improved economy, Americans don't feel it. And that's the problem: the Dems were presented this information (Americans don't feel better under this economy), and just kept doubling down, spouting metrics that mean nothing to the average American.

    I think in response to the economy polling, Harris trotted out the $15/hr minimum wage increase. In our political hellscape, that's a progressive policy. But it's 10 years too late... Minimum wage should be around $26/hr if it was (and should be) tied to inflation, the magic buzzword everyone has on their mind. But they're not campaigning on $26/hr, they're barely campaigning on $15/hr.

    Someone in another thread pointed out bodily autonomy and how much worse it would get under Trump. Fair enough, but what has Biden shown the American people he's done about bodily autonomy in the last 4 years? Why wasn't it enshrined into law at any point during the decades since the initial Roe ruling? Why should voters believe Democrats are actually going to do it this time and not continue using abortion as a campaign tool?

    You and I both know the answers to all of the questions above are not black and white, their answers range from the complexity of different administrations to the limited power within the executive branch to Democrats lacking a political majority outside of a few months every couple decades, etc. I get that, but even I'm tired of it being an excuse, and the average American doesn't even consider the excuse. They just don't care: they see their money worth less, their paycheck barely increasing to match inflation most years, and laws not being passed.

    On the flip side, Trump got a lot done in his first four years, regardless of whatever legal obstacles got in his way. This flies in the face of our constitution and the very rule of law and is a direct threat to our democracy.....

    .... But he got things done. No one can deny that, Trump got things done, and he did things his base wanted him to. As much as Trump hates his base, he at least panders to them, and if he doesn't support them, he shows faux support, which is good enough. He represents the worst of humanity, is a serial rapist, convicted felon, racist, misogynist, sexist, xenophobic, transphobic, homophobic orange shit stain on the annals of history...

    But he got things done, and in the eyes if the average American, Biden didn't, and Harris promised 4 more years of the same. So voters stayed home, and it is 100% the Democrats fault.

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  • Yep, we will.

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  • The Democrats ran on an uninspiring platform, and then wondered why the voting base was uninspired.

    And I didn't realize "listen to your constituents" was the same as "do anything I say and also fuck you."

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  • Proving my point as to why Democrats can't seem to win, keep winning people over to the party there, champ.

  • 2024 Presidential Election Megapost!

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  • then moving to the middle is the only logical option.

    And Democrats will continue to lose because of this. Americans are tired of progress not happening, so I have to disagree with you.

    Democrats needed to rally the country and get them excited behind a progressive candidate actually willing to reflect their constituency. But they won't, because that's somehow considered radical by Democrats.

    The Democrats keep trying this middle-of-the-road status quo bullshit, and they keep losing. So maybe middle of the road isn't the play anymore.

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  • I get it, everyone is upset that Trump won (including myself). But the voters are not solely to blame here.

    Democrats put forward a candidate who lost to fascism. What does that say about your policies, your messaging, how the voters feel about you when you tell them "You have to vote for me because I'm not the other guy!"

    Y'all need to accept that 1. The Democrats can grasp defeat from the jaws of victory like no one else, and 2. The American people want change, they want progress, they have had enough of the status quo system that isn't working for them anymore.

    They spent the last four years living under Biden, and despite all the screeching about how well the economy was doing, Americans don't feel it. And instead of addressing that, or doing anything about it, Biden and the Democrat establishment would just point the finger at Republicans and say, "No, no, they're worse, trust us, they're worse, they're worse."

    They've spent a year telling Americans, despite everything they're seeing and hearing from Palestine, that Israel needs this unconditional support, while the world votes to hold Israel accountable and the US vetos it, under a Democrat administration. Multiple times, while refusing to let any Palestinians on stage at the DNC to speak, but parading Republican after Republican because they finished licking Trump's ass and decided to give Kamala's a go. Arab and Muslim Americans organized a protest vote, over 100,000 strong in Michigan alone (which she's projected to lose, btw), and the Democrats sent Bill Clinton to lecture them on how Israel is only doing what's necessary to defend themselves.

    So we've had four years of milquetoast progress at best from a candidate the Democrat's constituency already didn't like. He dropped out but didn't leave enough time for a new primary, so the Democrat Party pushed Kamala on us, and then had her run on a centrist, return-to-the-status-quo platform, while refusing to take any meaningful stand on Palestine, with their biggest policy being, "Hey, you have to vote for us because we're not fascist."

    If the American people, people in general, don't feel like they're being represented, why would the feel like voting? This is a failure on the Democrats, 100%, for running platform policies and candidates that don't drive people to the polls. Say what you want about Trump, and there's plenty to say about the absolute piece of shit of a human being he is.

    But he makes his voters feel listened to and heard, and Democrats may consider it regression, but Republicans get their policies done, and they show progress to their constituents. Democrats get nothing done, usually due to Republican fuckery, but the Republicans don't face similar fuckery, so the average voter doesn't care, they just see one wide getting their agenda accomplished and the other not.

    So now I pose this question to you, and I'm genuinely asking, this isn't an "I gotcha, I am so smart!"

    If a person doesn't feel represented by their government regardless of who's in power, and your life doesn't drastically improve under either candidate, well... What difference does it make which form of government is fucking you over?

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  • Harris played it safe and it looks like she's going to lose anyway, so maybe she should've considered more progressive ideas. Or maybe listened to her constituents instead of doing what Democrats always fucking do, and playing off the "you have to vote for us because we're not them."

    But no, let's blame the voters for a candidate failing to win them over.

  • Harris vows at Michigan rally to ‘do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza’

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  • If Trump wins, there is no one to blame but Harris and the Democrats, full stop. If we fall to fascism, which I hope we don't (I already begrudgingly voted Harris this morning), I will blame no one but the Democrat Party.

    They chose to ignore the Muslim/Arab voices protesting this past year, they chose to run on a moderate presidential platform, and they refuse to denounce a genocide, or even do anything about it (Biden is still president, and has continued to do nothing but send Netanyahu whatever he wants).

    You all want Muslim/Arab voters to vote for Harris to prevent fascism, well, they wanted you all to take their wants seriously, and Biden/Harris haven't.

    So if they lose, it's on the Democrat party, not anyone else.

  • Nikki Haley Went On Fox And Ripped The Trump Campaign To Shreds—And People Love It

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  • And his wife? How is she holding up?

  • Harris vows at Michigan rally to ‘do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza’

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  • Yep, the Democrats didn't even allow a Palestinian to speak at the DNC, but they had how many Republican politicians come on stage?

    The Democrats have ignored the Muslim/Arab community almost entirely this election cycle, and are now freaking out because their Status-Quo policy decisions might have cost them the election.

    And when you point this out on Lemmy, you're screamed at for being a Trump supporter and wanting Gaza leveled. No, we just wanted our party leadership to reflect the wants of the majority of their constituents for once.

  • Harris vows at Michigan rally to ‘do everything in my power to end the war in Gaza’

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  • I was told to grow up the other day for simply pointing out why Muslim/Arab voters may be struggling internally with voting for Harris. Just, y'know, applying empathy and putting myself into someone's shoes who has way more involved in that than I do.

    When I pointed out that this is why Democrats lose voters (they're condescending and dismissive to their own party because their issues/concerns aren't "convenient" right now) I'm screamed at for supporting Trump and how much worse it would be.

    100,000 voters cast protest votes during the primaries in just Michigan alone over the Palestinian genocide, it's clearly an important issue to your constituents and they deserve to be treated with respect. Not condescension and insults, as if they can't possibly comprehend their choices here.

  • Elon Musk’s daily $1 million giveaway to voters can continue, Pennsylvania judge rules

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  • Third comma? It's a lot cheaper to bribe a US politician than that. Many will vote in your favor for a few thousand dollars in campaign contributions.

  • American Exceptionalism is White Supremacy, and it’s not Optional to Succeed Here.

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  • The play God Bless the USA when you complete Battlestations at the end of Navy bootcamp. There's a projector and slideshow while everyone is standing in formation, receiving their "Navy" ballcap, officially becoming a sailor.

    Looking back... Yeah, it was cringe af.

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  • It's been a while since I had it, so you may be right. Though, I do remember they were very specific it would only meet treason if it resulted in an intelligence officers death, but I don't remember under what Act or law they were interpreting from.

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  • But... The children yearn for the mines...

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  • I remember when I had my clearance, we were told anything we worked on was classified for a minimum of like 75 years, unless it was declassified earlier. I remember because they told is if we were 18, we could potentially legally talk about our work at the age of 93, assuming the classification wasn't extended.

    Anyway, part of that briefing was the outlining of consequences should we leak any classified information. We were told if the information we leaked resulted in the death of an intelligence officer anywhere in the world, we could and likely would be tried for treason. And the punishment for treason during a time of war (Global War on Terror, amiright) could be death.

    So... He'll be charged with treason like any of us plebs would have been, right? Right?!