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  • I'm not sure the CIA was doing stuff as advanced as Stuxnet in its LSD days when it was supplying Iran.

    Though now that you mention it, I'm surprised we've never heard of the CIA doing more things like obscure Stuxnet style sabotage on leaders' aircraft and the like.

  • Yeahhhh it's the age-old campism of "If it's anti-america, it must be good" I'm so sick of this black and white thinking, we can force the U.S government to do better without praising whoever is doing atrocities in the name of attacking the west.

  • Oh it'll definitely be something like that.

    Right now Israel doesn't care if it kills civilians to get Hamas, and they've had to slow down their attacks several times and scaled things back because of the Biden admin.

    If Trump is elected there's literally nothing stopping Israel from just mustard gassing all of Gaza.

  • "So hear me out, we place a bomb in one of the Hueys and then stop supplying them with new ones, one day their leader will totally get on it and then we got em"

    "Yo bill maybe slow down on the company acid please."

  • Hmmmm the guy everyone thought was gonna be leader next suddenly dies and the son of the current leader is now the heir presumptive... I know nowhere enough about Iranian politics and ik it was a heli crash but this sounds suspicious as hell.

  • Every 10 days a few blocks wouldn’t match the expected construction rate, and there’s no reasoning why they think it was for the Great Pyramid

    Unless there were other crews, like there almost always is in any construction. The journal also specifically names the pyramid, it'd be odd for the stone they're moving to go to the site of the Pyramid of Khufu, mention the name of the pyramid of Khufu, and then not be used for the pyramid of Khufu.

  • Sealioning for genocide. Neat.

    Assuming bad faith again as I tried to reach out to hear your position in the most honest way possible.

    Destroying the infrastructure of Gaza so that the wounded cannot get treatment. Targeting civilians. Targeting aid trucks. Preventing aid from getting in, essentially manufacturing a famine.

    I agree all of these are awful atrocities that warrant treating Netanyahu the exact same as we treat Putin. I'm not justifying what Israel or Russia are doing at all, I'm simply saying that no one calls what Russia is doing (the exact same things that Israel is doing) a genocide except ukrainian nationalists.

    I just don't understand why it's genocide when Israel does it, but not when any other country does these things.

  • Can you please point to me what makes you think it's explicitly genocidal and not just your run of the mill war crimes like happened in Chechnya, Syria, and now Ukraine?

    This is genuinely my only problem calling it a genocide, the label doesn't exactly change much for me, I want Biden to do way more to end it, but I don't think he can change 70 years of Israeli government attitude towards Palestinians in a year.

  • First Biden, now me, what's your deal with not believing people when they say things?

    Not everyone is arguing in bad faith.

  • especially because he has human hands

    Can like 5% of the military budget please be devoted to giving Biden cool cyborg hands that like shoot lasers or something?

  • Depressing but not surprising, Putins favorite little sycophant in Chechnya, Kadyrov, has been saying, "There's no gay people in Chechnya" like "There's no war in Ba Sing Se" while simultaneously throwing thousands of LGBT people into camps for a decade now.

  • You can't just say "you're a genocide denier!!!!" When the world hasn't even agreed if a genocide is happening.

  • No, I don't think Biden is that stupid.

    Every single press briefing where I've seen the word Genocide mentioned the Executive branch has firmly denied that description. The official position of the Biden administration is that there's possibly war crimes, but no genocide.

    No. It's genocide and anyone who says it isn't knows better and supports it.

    And your standard is? Because if most of the world and literally every court is calling it not a genocide or "Idk yet if genocide" then I don't see how "Anyone who says it isn't knows better". That sounds just like something you tell yourself to write off everyone critical as malicious genocide lovers.

    Gloat harder that the US keeps abusing its veto to hobble any investigation into the genocide you refuse to call a genocide.

    No country has a veto on ICJ decisions. What are you talking about? The U.S. isn't even a member of the ICJ.

    Oh ffs. You just trust them because you love how they're enabling genocide.

    Again assuming I love genocide or anything that's happening in Gaza, I don't, I just believe, as a member of a group that has been genocided before and could be again, that there needs to be a higher bar than 1 month and 10k casualties in to start screaming Genocide. There hasn't even been a single investigation yet and people are burning themselves alive because of the rhetoric.

    War fucking sucks, and this may be many peoples first time seeing it, but this isn't special for war, kids die in bombings all the fucking time and it's depressing, but we didn't call the children bombed by Assad in Aleppo genocide victims, we didn't call the Chechens in Grozny genocide victims, we didn't call the Vietnamese in Hue genocide victims, we didn't call the Greeks expelled from Turkey and Turks expelled from Greece genocide victims.

    Yet, as soon as it's Israel, it gets politically loaded, and people suddenly become bigger genocide experts than the ICJ.

  • Do you have a source for this?

    Last time I checked almost every historian agreed they were almost all tombs.

  • Have you ever considered that the White House doesn't consider it a genocide? Just a normal war with an above average amount of war crimes.

    If you understand that position (their stated position) every action they take makes perfect sense under that perspective.

    Now you can argue if it's genocide or not, that's up to the ICJ but currently the whitehouse has more information than any of us and they don't consider it one.

  • It's almost as if they don't exactly care or pay attention to actual reforms in the country, and are just pissed off at a politician because he hasn't unilaterally ended a war being conducted by two other countries.

  • That feeling when you're so brain fucked by the cold war actions of the U.S that the Authoritarian reactionary hellscape is good apparently.