Given that there are multiple replies from people that had not been aware…

Usually very old (more tenth than second-hand) Lenovo ThinkPads (And, yes, I am aware of IBMs involvement in Holocaust management via the Deutsche Hollerith-Maschienen AG), they tend to be ok for neat things like LibreBoot too. If I didn’t want to tinker with them myself I’d buy directly from https://minifree.org/ instead. Sure, they are oooooold, but I’m a programmer of the vim-persuasion, but not compiling horrible languages like C++, so I really don’t need much. That said: I am ok with people making their own decisions, following their own moral compass; I really just wanted to make sure that they are at least aware and can make an informed decision ;-)

There’s loads of articles out there about them,not my job to explain them to you. You may disagree with their conclusions, of course, but othes may draw conclusions from your behaviour, too. In this sense: plonk

Definitions, or rather language, tend to change over time. Usually turning into their opposites. And nothing stops people, in this case right wingers, to abuse a term to hide their crap either. See “Evolution: Contoversy”. No,I’m sorry, just like “Hacker” has become a synonym for “Cracker” & “Black Hat”, so “apolitical” has become a fig leaf to “hide” right wing bullshit in plain sight

You realize that “apolitical” is an extremely well-known nazi dog-whistle / pure apologetics these days, right? I’m not saying you shouldn’t buy framework, that’s your call to make, and my threshold-to-nazi is clearly different from yours, but I do think people should at least look at who they’re in bed with.

Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t call them out though.

Now, if only they considered not sponsoring nazis… https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/14/framework_linux_controversy/

You get thrown into Jail as an “anti-social element” (There’s an important distinction between “unable to work” and “unwilling to work”, both meaning “work” as in “contributing labor to the well-being of your fellow humans”). Also: You clearly don’t know anything about socialism beyond right-wing delusions.

I’ve always enjoyed the thought of a couple cats cooperating to take on a cow lke the raptors in jurassic park, only much closer to the actual size of raptors =^_^=

Came here intending to say just exactly that; Thank you =^_^=

Whatever you’re trying to achieve: You’re decidedly approaching it from the wrong angle.

No shit. “More” is technically correct. “A metric fuckton more” conveys the appropriate scale. It’s not like systemd added a handful small features, it has subsumed nearly everything between kernel and userland. (Note that proponents usually point this out as a good thing; It’s uncontested, you just seem blissfully unaware)

Have you considered that we don’t think any of those are “good points” worthy of comment?

Nope, but “more” doesn’t adequately capture the scale of it. Given that you talk about a predecessor (singular) I presume systems programming is not your specialty?

Ahem, it does a ton more than merely “initiate booting” (logging, time, user management, device management, the list is long and it is really hard to find a piece of basic system functionality it hasn’t subsumed), please don’t spread misinformation.

Come on, that’s pure ragebait… It’s not like it"s hard to search for all the different reasons… https://nosystemd.org/ collects a few in semi-coherent form. The short answer is: It combines a lot of previously independent systems responsibilities under one umbrella organization that holds decidedly strong opinions and is not exactly open to criticism.

Well, I’m married to one (and I only “celebrate” in the sense that it’s a gotta-visit-your-parents-once-a-year-anyway-at least-it-doesn’t-cost-vacation-days opportunity, no presents or anything). Their parents tried “if you don’t go to church then there’ll be no presents either” and, well, not a good tactic when dealing with a stubborn aspie ;-)

I agree, but then I’m one of those really hardcore libre-software-only nutcases ;-)

EDIT: Though, to be fair, the Trident Missiles they carry are US-made, too, so…

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a19061/britains-doomsday-subs-run-windows-xp/

(Though, of course, that’s alledgedly simplifying a lot to make it more click-bait-y: https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-trident-doesnt-run-windows-xp/ )

Nice April 1st. I mean that’d be almost as ridiculous as running nuclear subs on Windows, right? Long EOL’d versions at that, eh?

rustles papers

Oh.