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  • I am not saying you intended to diminish/sanitize anything, but I would like to emphasize brutally murdered and shot to death.

  • This thread is confusing because ChonkyOwlbear and TrickDacy are getting a lot of upvotes upfront, but they are both children with fingers in their ears shouting "nanana i dont hear you, democrats perfect, both sides narrative is bullshit".

    They are ignoring the reality if what arrow74 said (we should primary these Dems from within the party and even failing that, they are preferable to republican candidates) and even after being proven wrong, continued to treat arrow74 like a liar who wanted to muddy waters on behalf of the republicans.

    It was just a crazy ignorant boomer moment for both of them. But I needed this comment further up so that more people could just see

    https://lemmy.zip/comment/23945523

    The context at the end of the thread without having to go all the way through.

  • Yikes.

  • If it's not a command, what is it? A warning? Why do I need to let "it" go? Get over what weird outrage? Why do I need to do any of these things? Why are you telling me I need to do this? It is a command, stop trying to gaslight me into thinking I'm gaslighting you.

    You are the one who is outraged. People told you that your reason for being angry is because you had an unfair expectation. You are welcome to try and manipulate the realities of the situation as you like, but that is what happened.

    You keep placing false intent and meaning. That is a form of manipulation and gas lighting.

    Incredibly weird and hilariously ironic.

  • You need to let it go, or get over whatever this weird outrage this is that you are having.

    You don't have a right to command me, either. Lol.

  • You as well!

  • The chance that your kids will suffer extraordinarily is... extremely high, actually. Are you a climate science denier?

  • lol ok bud.

  • The expansion of a collective of imperialist nations does not justify another imperialist power's expansion.

  • lmao, doesn't lemmy have some sort of age requirement for signing up?

  • Right, and similarly, we shouldn't tell people that we're planning to propose. It's ridiculous to tell your friends about the major changes you are planning for your life. Filthy animals.

    /s

    Get over yourself.

  • Relating to my position is irrelevant. The core logic remains the same.

    You may not think it, but the logical conclusion of your position is either

    a.) it is okay to inflict suffering because I feel like it

    Or

    b.) I am not directly responsible for inflicting any suffering that my offspring goes through.

    Or

    c.) The quality of life I can provide for them supersedes/makes up for that suffering.

    A is strictly wrong, B is wrong by my standards, and C is entirely subjective and is ultimately a question that you don't really know the answer to and you just feel that way. See A.

    But yes thank you I do not hope for any undue suffering in anyone's life and I do not think that having children makes you due to suffer. But it is undoubtedly a selfish act in my book.

  • Thanks, you too! :3

  • Anti-semites within the movement are regularly dogpiled all the time. What you call anti-semitic is not anti-semitic, it's anti-zionist.

    You, as a zionist, are the anti-semite. And yes, anti-semetic Jewish people exist.

    Also... hate against Palestinians is anti-semitism.

    I compared Netenyahu to Hitler and you defended him. fuck off and die bitch, no one wants you here.

    https://lemmy.world/comment/21338438

    For context

  • I'm not arguing against having children and I'm not saying you're a bad person. But logically, saying "I can't help what I feel" is not a valid reason to inflict suffering onto other people in any context.

    Similarly, I don't want to fucking be alive anymore, but suicide is the action deemed "selfish". But not the action of my parents to bring me into the world.

    I'm not saying you in particular, but yes, fuck society, reproduction is selfish and cruel, and just because you feel the way you do doesn't make it any less so.

    I'm sorry for your children who may have to grow up in a doomed world. I hope they don't. And I hope they don't regret YOUR decision to give them life.

  • Because if someone doesn't preface with the fact that they are referring to real, lived experiences and not twitter screenshots, then they are dismissed as being chronically online.

    The stuff you said? That's how you read it and perceived it, but it's not what is said. And it's not my job when arguing with people about dumb internet shit to figure out and account for how an offhand refutal comment will come off.

    I also don't care if I'm being rude or snide. If you feel belittled, then you are insecure. I'm just a random douchebag on lemmy whose direct opinion of you, you shouldn't care about. So if you feel belittled, it's your own fault. Block and move on.

  • Similarly he had a right to not finish the book- what you don't have is a right to tell other people what to do.

    If you can't finish it, then don't fucking start it.

    This is neither a simple expression of frustration nor is it a criticism.

    It is a command.

    Hence why you're being called entitled.

  • Did you miss the "large numbers of the dumbest people on the planet" bit or are you just unable to actually parse what I'm saying and write a valid response? Are you using AI to write your dumbassery?