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  • For me the problem use to be it having gone from "Our product is great and here's why" style of adverts to the psychological manipulation shit (image of beautiful woman seducing handsome man, queue name of perfume).

    I'm fine with people trying to convince me but detest when they try to manipulate me.

    However the recent tendency to relentlessly shove it in front of me ALL THE TIME does get on my nerves - it's like getting constantly harassed by a shameless salesman with no respect for other people.

  • Neither "anuncios" (adverts) nor "marketing" (yeah, we use the English word) are the same as "propaganda" (its spelled the same as in English but said slightly differently)

    Is what you describe a Brasilian Portuguese thing?

  • I literally dropped my Internet Provider which had a Net+TV+phone packet when their TV box got enshittified with Ads.

    Got me a different, Internet Only, provider and made my own TV box from a Mini-PC with Linux and a wireless remote control.

    Interestingly, I ended up paying 1/3 the price and getting 5x faster internet relative to the previous provider, so thanks for trying to shove adds on my face Vodaphone!

  • Yeah, but in Pam's eyes common people and the elements of their life are neither "the system" nor what that "the system" exists to support.

  • If the "system" is so deeply and widelly riddled with pedophiles that prosecuting every one in just the found files of just a single criminal pedophile ring would "collapse the system" then the "system" is nothing more than a criminal enterprise which deserves to be collapsed.

  • Yeah, I believe so based on what I saw from affar, but I'm more intimatelly familiar with Britain - especially the more subtle elements of politics and policy - since I lived there from before the Crash until Brexit.

  • feddit.org's Zionist bar problem: community ban(s) vote

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  • Personally, the problem is the use of the tools of authority in those communities (moderation powers) and server (administration powers) to de facto suppress any criticism of a modern day ethno-Fascist ideology second only to Nazism in the depravity of the Violent Racism it spreads and the nation that follows it and has, inspired by it, has engaged in a Genocide along ethnic lines whose level of state-sanction depravation (for example, the active targetting children for murder in Gaza and widespread use of rape against political prisioners) are second only to the Holocaust itself in the treatment of actual human beings of the races they deem "vermin" as subhuman.

    I for one would be perfectly fine with the "arguments" stage, my problem is that in feddit they have systematically leveraged the natural control powers of communities and servers in this system into a form of ideological authoritarism, worse, one in the service of a depraved ideology and the nation that follows such depraved ideals.

    The active support through the use of the authority-tools of moderation and administration in that server for zionists and suppression of points of view critical to the zionists and their ideals means that this discussion here is not about "arguments" but rather it's about "abuse of authority" and in the latter domain it's logical to respond with tools in the same domain, namelly banning and defederation.

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  • Passing Zionism and Israel as representing the Jewish People is the most anti-semitic thing there is because the actions of that ideology and that nation are some of the most depraved imaginable: portraying Zionism and Isreal as representing the Jewish People is the logical equivalent of claiming that the commiting of Genocide (including explicitly targetting children) and even participating in the running of a pedophile ring (the Epstein one, which Mossad supported) are "Jewish things".

    Meanwhile there are the more traditional kinds of anti-semitism which do not taint all Jewish people by conflating them as a group with depraved ideologies and nations and instead just directly slander Jewish People for being Jewish.

    And this bring us to your post: you're saying that we should overlook the actions of the first kind of anti-semite, by claiming that in us doing otherwise would weaken efforts against the second kind of anti-semite.

    Your claim is the very opposite of logic: it is the first kind of anti-semite who are strengthening the messaging of the second kind (for example, under the [IMHO false] axiom that Israel is the same as The Jewish People, then the Mossad's involvement in the Epstein child-sex ring leads to the mathematically logical conclusion that Jews are pedophiles or at least supporters of pedophilia) because the second kind can leverage the depraved Israeli and Zionist actions and the link to the Jewish People claimed by the first kind to slander all Jews.

    Because of this connection between these two kinds of anti-semites, in reality those fighting the former kind of anti-semite weaken the second whilst those protecting the former strengthen the latter.

    And this brings us to feddit.org being filled to the brim with the first kind of anti-semite and activelly protecting them from criticism.

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  • Something very different from "Death to Israelis Death to Germans".

    You see wanting the end of a specific power and political structure is completelly different from wanting death for the people who live under it. At times desiring the end of a nation is actually desiring less death for the people living under its yoke, with the desire for Death To Israel being a perfect example of it given that nation's occupation of and actions in Palestine.

    (So it's pretty "funny" that you're parroting the Zionist propaganda of trying to misportray a desire for less death of actual human beings expressed as a desire for the end of the political structures that support such death, as being a desire for more death).

    Granted, the difference between "Nation" and "People Living In A Nation" is completelly lost in the minds of Nationalists (who are mainly Fascists and proto-Fascists) who also happen to be some of the most Genocide-loving types around.

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  • I really hope there's an implied /s there ...

  • They're the most successful Fascists at the moment and in parts of Europe have massive influence because they're often supported by those amongst the power-hungry rich people who happen to be Jewish. This helps further normalized the tools of Autoritarianism in the countries were they have influence.

    (For avoidance of doubt I'm not saying "Rich = Jewish, I'm saying "Very Rich Jewish = Very Rich Non-Jewish = Fascist Supporting")

    Mind you, I myself think Neoliberals are far more guilty of pushing for the implementation of tools of Authoritarianism in Europe than Zionists, mainly because Neoliberalism is an anti-Democracy ideology (it desires that the State - which is what is controlled by the voters - does not exerce its power in those domains that matter the most for Money - the neolibs call it "interfere in the Market" - i.e. for that which the vote controls to be a power second to Money, or in other words, make the power of voters secondary, the opposite of Democracy).

    Whilst Propaganda is the primary Neoliberal tool of control, Surveilance is the second one and Force Disguised As Fair and Legitimate (i.e. as "Justice") is next, which is how we end up with Chat-Control, insanelly overbroad Anti-Terrorism Legislation and Anti-Demonstration Legislation.

    But yeah, there is reason to believe that the influence of Zionism in Europe mainly via the subset of the Jewish People here who are pro-Fascism, has probably helped a bit the expansion of authoritarianism in Europe.

  • I just want to inject here my experience in Britain during the 2008 Crash and its aftermath:

    In Britain, the Finance Industry was 17% of GDP, so when the Crash happened the country was disproportionally hit.

    After the crash the autorities chose to protect Asset Owners above all:

    • Interest rates were lowered to 0%, thus protecting lenders (i.e. those with the money to lend or ownership of Banks which in the modern system can de facto create money: if you don't believe me, read the paper "Money Creation In The Modern Economy" from the Bank Of England) from debt defaults, also indirectly protecting Asset Owners by avoiding asset firesales from collateral confiscated after a default thus avoiding the associate asset price falls, most notably for Land and Housing (in the UK the Housing bubble never really stopped being inflated and Land Ownership is the core of Old Wealth)
    • Banks were unconditionally saved by the state taking a share in them. That Public share was then put under management of a group made up of bankers "so that the government doesn't interfere in the market". De facto pressure for changing from the very practices that had cause the Crash was removed and most of the people having the blame for the failures of the Crash kept their positions of privilege.
    • All this was paid by most people through Austerity. Public services were cut, Social Security (aka "Benefits) were reduced, salaries stagnated. The poorer one was the worst they got hit.

    By 2015 the incomes of the top wealthier 10% of the population were growing in real terms 23% per year whilst the bottom 90% were seeing their incomes fall 1% per year in real terms.

    This was roughly how things went for about a decade after the Crash. UK inequality is nowadays huge, social mobility near non-existent, average incomes when measured in a currency other than the pound - which went down following Brexit - have stagneted, overall economic growth is anemic and concentrated in highest wealth layers since that "growth" told by official GDP numbers is mostly asset prices going up.

    This is the process by which the billionaires make sure they win: everybody gets hit more or less in a Crash, but in during the subsequent period when the state is supposedly trying to fix it, you get also sorts of "extreme measures required by extreme times" that, "curiously", help the billionaires the most, so some years later everybody but the wealthiest slices of society are worst of whilst the wealthiest are much richer even than before the Crash.

    I expect the plans of the billionaires who are cozying up with Trump is exactly to end up richer via this process.

  • A lot of countries in Europe already have their own country-wide payment systems.

    What we're seeing now in Europe is the stage where those multiple country-specific systems become interoperable and a new international payment system appears.

    Canada only needs the kind of thing which has been not just available but actually dominant for decades in countries like The Netherlands and Portugal.

  • At least in Europe housing is at the moment proportionally to incomes just as bad as in the US.

    Totally agree on Health, though.

  • Having lived in a couple of countries in Europe, from The Netherlands which has Proportional Vote system and a thus a multitude of small parties to Britain with a First Past The Post system like the US and thus pretty much a Two Party System, I've concluded that at least in Politics stability is just like standing water - it invariably turns into a swamp.

    We need some amount of constant change to bring up and flush out the rot that innevitably accumulates in the murky waters of a system were power is always in the hands of a subset of people who are all in the same social circles, went to the same schools and whose sons and daughters marry each other.

    Not "Daily Revolution", just regular change so that any funny business going on outside the public eye risks being brought to light, destroyed and the guilty people punished because power has changed has to people who aren't mates of the crooks that did it.

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  • Just want to point out that in my experience, outside Germans the "Euro" public are generally against what Israel has been doing in Palestine. Those more politically aware who know what that is are against Zionism explicitly.

    The exception is of course for the Far-Right types who, of course, love the whole white-colonialist thing.

    IMHO:

    Germany has massive issues with still holding hard to the mental framework from the "good old days" were people are just deemed members of etnic groups based on things they were born with, and are treated above all based on the ethnic group they "belong to", rather than Modern Humanism were people's deserved treatment is based on their need and their actions.

    Because of this profoundly backwards Prejudiced and Racist foundational element of moral thinking widespread in German, it was a lot easier for the ethno-Fascist Zionists to subvert guilt in Germany into support for Zionism and the Zionist Genocide, as well as cultivating Islamophobia.

    The same backwards moral fundational element also explains the ease of expansion of AfD and their ideology in Germany.

    Not to say other countries in Europe don't have Prejudice, Racism or even support for 19th century style white-colonialism, just saying that Germany seems to have a far more insidious problem than most in that regards due to this specific foundational piece having been repeatedly reinforced in the broad political discourse in Germany even while in other countries in Europe openly singling out people's ethnicity and demanding ethnically-discriminatory treatment (either "positive" or negative) was frowned upon.

    Just want to point out that I don't at all think all Germans are like this.

    Not even close.

    My point is that this kind of thinking is more widespread and normalized in Germany, were it's constantly pushed by the Press and Politicians of most colors (which is why even the Greens were pro-Israel during the worst of the Genocide in Gaza, unlike any other Green party in Europe)

  • Oh yeah, I got it.

    Those people are people like my parents, my uncles and aunts.

    The thing is, from my own experience being involved in a small leftwing party in Portugal and with my own family, it's pretty much only those who were politically aware back in Fascist days (and Fascism had things like Censorship, so most people were not politically aware and thought of Fascism that "it's the way things are") that still hold strong to traditional Leftwing values. Further, the level of Education of people seems to be positivelly correlated with how much they understand and value Democracy, and back in the days of Fascism most people were either illiterate or had about 4 years schooling as that was the mandatory level of schooling until the late 60s.

    Meanwhile young people's politics are the product of growing up during the Neoliberal era, with no real strong well structured ideologies beyond Neoliberal-Capitalism providing a framework of thinking and policy making and instead with tactical, one-problem-at-a-time, "moderate" politics with no clear vision for the future or strategy, so they don't really have top-down thinking hence even their Principles are easilly misdirected and subverted (such as how the fight for Equality For All has been transformed by Neoliberalism into a "divide and conquer" version were people are grouped by characteristics they were born with and then treated as differently deserving of their "equality" being fought for depending on such characteristics - so, an unequal form of equality, thus not really Equality - which very purposefully avoids talking about the greatest inequality of all - Wealth Inequality - and is called Identity Politics).

    So yeah, the old guezers still in leftwing parties whose political awareness came during Fascist days plus quite a bunch more of their age cohort are still a strong bullwark against Fascism, but party of those people have already been converted towards Fascist ideas (mainly because of immigration, as Portugal used to be an incredibly uniform country and in maybe 2 decades immigrants became almost 10% of population, which is extra hard to older people who grew up in those days when everybody shared the same cultural background are thus are nowhere as socially and culturally flexible) whilst the younger generations often think Neoliberal Capitalism "is the way things are" since that's all they've known their whole lives and even the ones with Leftwing principles, having confused messaging pushed by the not-quite-as-righting neoliberals from places like the US and UK with leftwing ideas and are busy pushing the divisive "Equality" of Identity Politics that pits parts of the Left against other parts of the Left AND against the mainstream depending on which Identitarian Group they feel should be more protected which fuels the kind of environment were Fascists can pedle their ideals (the subject immigration has been especially useful for Fascists in this, especially given that as studies have shown Immigration lowers salaries for unspecialized occupations, which is exactly were the poor and the poorest working class sits, so they're naturally drawn to anti-immigration discourse).

    TL;DR

    In summary:

    • Only the old people with higher education and political awareness dating back to Fascist days still hold strong against Fascism.
    • Most old people have low education or did not have political awareness back then. They're also naturally inflexible and have trouble dealing with things like the rise of multi-culturalism from immigration so more easilly fall prey to people preaching a return to the "old days".
    • Young people whilst having much higher levels of formal education know nothing else but Neoliberal Capitalism. Even those who have leftwing principles usually follow political frameworks from anglo-saxon countries which are de facto not leftwing (i.e. not seeking pure "Equality For All") and instead are divisive equality-but-not-equally constructs which naturally pit some people against other people purelly based on genetic characteristics they were born with or the geographical location of their birth, thus both dividing the left AND at the same time antagonizing the poorest segments the many since the "groups" those liberals-thinking-they're-lefties fight for are minorities hence by definition "the few" and they don't fight as hard, if at all, against that which plagues the weakest amongst the majority - wealth inequality.

    So the bullwark against Fascism was never as strong as it might seem, is naturally eroding as those people die and due to imported supposedly "leftwing" political frameworks which are really just a Neoliberal perversion of core Leftwing ideals it's not actually being rebuilt but actually is being eroded even faster.

    (Most of that 50 year extra period after Fascism for countries like Italy and Germany over countries like Portugal, Spain and Greece was during a time were the Leftwing was far more effective and created things like universal healthcare, universal education and social security, things which generally have been slowly destroyed in the last 4 decades)

    IMHO, just like American-style "Liberals" are de facto facilitators of Fascism, the ideas they have exported during their period of cultural dominance in the West are also weaking the capability of being a bullwark for Fascism of the newer Leftwing generations elsewere.

  • A lot of countries in Europe have widely used country-specific payment systems.

    The problem is those which don't as well as the system of one country not being usable in other European countries so it falls back to VISA or Mastercard to use your card when abroad or for online purchases from businesses based in other countries.

  • I wouldn't be so sure.

    Look at Germany, not just the obvious part with AfD but also the unwavering support for a certain middle-eastern nation dominated by an extremely racist ethno-Fascist ideology whilst they were committing Genocide in Gaza.

    (Also look at Italy which currently has a far-right government).

    Given enough time that protection against a certain kind of authoritarianism because of a nation having been through it, fades away.

    Unlike in Germany were it was foreigners that kicked the Fascists out, in Portugal it was actually the Portuguese that freed themselves from Fascism, so hopefully that protection will last a bit longer in Portugal.