‘boyfriend said he "doesn't know if he can accept" that i am a zionist’ ‘You need to dump him!’
‘boyfriend said he "doesn't know if he can accept" that i am a zionist’ ‘You need to dump him!’
Just a moment...
My white, very white, boyfriend, 34 m, (i am 28 f) hes very liberal (in my view) bf who is catholic, has a problem with me calling myself a zionsit.
I do call myself a zionist, from my idea, its that the Jews have a right to land, and that Israel has a right to exist. My partner and i got into a huge fight about it, he kept saying my interpretation was wrong, he has nothing to do with the middle east what so ever, I kept saying he does not understand but said he has "read scolars" whatever, the typical arguments, you guys will understand what i mean. He said he doesnt know if he can deal with me being a zionist so I left his apartment, in my eyes thats a no no, he came down, i went home, he begged me to come back, went back halfway through going home, etc, relationship fights, he said he thinks he cant but barely listens to me. In the fight i told him "this is why my family says i need to be with another jew!" and he said that was racist.
Need to rant. Need support. Anyone in such a situaiton? We are fine now I dont get why he cares so much. This is MY problem not his. I am the Jewish/Israeli not him, he isnt even from the middle east or mulsim like wtf am i supposed to do with this
Comments:
‘It’s a new year and saying “boy bye” is an excellent Rosh Hashanah resolution’ [+615]
‘At the very best, he's clueless and unwilling to listen. At worst he's antisemitic. I dumped a bf over similar issues in 2024. It was depressing but I've never doubted my choice--I can't imagine having to hide or censor my identity for a romantic partner.’ [+316]
‘Oh, He's Antisemitic, The only question is if he's intentional about it, or stupid.’ [+68]
‘He tried to explain to you, a Jew, a core piece of our identity that he defines wrong.’ [+270]
‘What's galling here is all these so-called experts trying to redefine what Zionism is, and unfortunately, for the world at large, having succeeded. They've turned the desire to have our homeland into a slur.’ [+18]
‘I disagree that supporting some of the actions - such as going into Gaza and needing to root things out once and for all - suddenly makes one lose their liberal credentials. Unlike what Reddit would have one believe, most Zionists are not bloodthirsty fans of genocide and apartheid (and I won't even get into those...); most are... apathetic? The focus is on "How does Israel stay safe". It's not that they don't care, but its a situation of being more concerned for your immediate family which you know and love. Jewish communities are saying "free the hostages", "End Hamas" in its rallies. Maybe we should mention the deaths on the other side more, I don't know, but - generally, there's always extremist outliers on both sides - no one's saying "Kill 'em all, wipe them out".’ [+17]
‘In my mind, the continued existence of the country some of my relatives live in is a critical issue. I want my relatives to be safe.’ [+31]
(How staying in a dilapidated, poorly defended piss bucket of a pariah state makes them safer is anybody’s guess.)
‘Well, I would ask him if it’s right for a non-oppressed person to define a specific form of oppression that doesn’t pertain to them. Should a misogynistic person define feminism? Should a heteronormative person define queerness? And so on.’ [+12]
‘Zionism is not a core part of the Jewish identity. Edit: there have been anti-zionist sects as long as there have been Zionist sects, to say ones a core part of Jewish identity but one isn't is absurd.’ [-9]
‘I am sorry you experienced this. He’s in the wrong and probably is being spoon fed information from social media.’ [+43]
‘This is a huge red flag. Cut him loose and don't look back. If you really don't want to give up on him then ask him if he would think it's ok to lecture any other minority on their liberation movement. Throw in some other buzzwords like telling him he's not being a good ally, or that he's mansplanining (it actually kind of sounds like he might have been mansplanining, honestly).’ [+48]
‘This relationship has run its course.’ [+101]
‘Leave him and find a mature man , and one that is hopefully Jewish. You are 28….you don’t need to deal with a 34 year old baby.’ [+51]
‘Leave. He is not worth wasting your time on. It sounds like he is very ignorant and permeable to the propaganda and lies of the last 3 years. It will be impossible to continue the relationship and raise a family with him.’ [+17]
‘pre 10/7 i was very much against the older generation trying to force marrying another jew down our throats. Now, in a post 10/7 world, there is nothing more important for our survival as a people but also our individual survival than to be partnered up with another Jew who will understand and be ready for action if /when the situation requires. Finding another Jew is the most important thing you can do for yourself in the post 10/7 world.’ [+29]
‘His problem is that he's a dumbass who doesn't actually respect you or your heritage, and he thinks he knows more than you do about your own history and culture. THAT'S BAD. Find yourself a guy whose head isn't up his Tiktok-educated butt. You're a gorgeous Jewish queen and deserve better.’ [+17]
‘Run.’ [+9]
‘You need to dump him. He is an antisemite and being with him is pure self-hate.’ [+5]
‘Dump this loser.’ [+7]
‘Tell him that racist is thinking that Jews are the only people in the world who have no right to self-determination. And that Zionism is a Jewish concept and therefore it is up to the Jews to say what it is.’ [+8]
‘Goodbye to the catholic boyfriend’ [+5]
‘break up. leave him and find someone that aligns with your belifs’ [+5]
Finally, my favourite reply:
‘People who make anti Zionism the center of their entire identity & get emotional about it are the most insufferable people on earth. They’ve never even been to Israel, they’ve never even seen what they’re advocating to be destroyed. I hate them.’ [+12]