https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/house/sitting-320/hansard#12770642
Honourable Michael Chong (Wellington-Halton Hills, CPC): "The bill would create a new offence of up to life in prison for a person who commits any indictable offence under the Criminal Code or under any other act of Parliament at the direction of, for the benefit of or in association with a foreign entity."
https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/house/sitting-320/hansard#12771238
Mr. René Villemure (Trois-Rivières, BQ): "Bill C-70 will also eliminate the requirement to prove that a criminal act benefited a foreign state or harmed Canada."
"Bill C-70 also provides for consecutive sentences and even life imprisonment for certain offences. I understand the desire to impose harsher sentences, but listen to what the Canadian Civil Liberties Association had to say. It said, and I quote:The availability of life imprisonment for certain offences introduced under Bill C-70 is disproportionate and excessive. For example, a person convicted of an indictable offence under the Criminal Code, even as minimal as theft under $5,000, could be sentenced to life in prison if they acted for the benefit of a foreign entity."
https://sencanada.ca/en/content/sen/chamber/441/debates/213db_2024-06-17-e#53
Honourable Yuen Pau Woo: "I hoped at the time that we could have a grown-up conversation about foreign interference so that we can avoid the excesses that I think we're beginning to enter into. I failed because today we are in a fevered environment where there is, it would seem, overwhelming support - indeed, unanimous approval - for a bill on countering foreign interference that has manifest flaws in it that have been raised to all of us through a variety of sources in civil society, academia and from ordinary Canadians."
"Let me now get to a number of the flaws that I see in the bill that I hope others will pick up and that we can perhaps put some thought into ameliorating. These are only a few examples."
"The first has to do with the Security of Information Act where there's a new offence related to political interference. I agree with the need to stop political interference from foreign principals, but there's a special provision where there is an offence of preparing the act of political interference. It says that this offence is when someone does anything that is directed towards or done in preparation of the commission of the offence, 'the offence' being political interference."
"In this provision, we are copying from the Australian example, where they also have a provision against the preparation and planning of an act of foreign interference, and they had their first conviction last year. Let me tell you that story."
"A Vietnamese Australian has been sentenced to two years in jail for the act of preparing or planning an act of foreign interference. What was that act? He organized a fundraiser during COVID, raising money from Vietnamese and Indo-Chinese-Australian communities to buy personal protective equipment and other medical supplies, and he donated that money to a hospital. At the ceremony where the donation was made, he invited a politician - I think he was a sitting minister at the time - to stand with him on the stage holding one of these fake cheques for $25,000 Australian. That was used as evidence that this Vietnamese Australian person was cultivating the minister for a future act of foreign interference."
"Just think about that. The Australian system is the Australian system, and they have the right to conduct themselves in the way that they want to. But are we going down the road where someone who develops a relationship with a politician or a public official who may have the potential to rise up the ladder sometime in the near or distant future, that that act in itself is a crime of planning or preparing an act of foreign interference? It drives shivers down the spine."
"I also like this registry in that it doesn't use the concept of related entity, which is such a broad and vague term that it can capture just about anyone who is associated with an organization that is in some way connected to a foreign power. Instead, it uses the term 'arrangements.' I recommended the idea of using the word 'arrangements,' but I would have preferred that it focus on material arrangements because that's concrete - a contract, a quid pro quo, a trip to Taiwan, for example, to Israel, to China or to Mexico. That's a material arrangement. Instead, what we have is '. . . arrangements . . .' or '. . . in association with . . .' Here, I have grave concerns. What does '. . . in association with . . .' mean?"
"The best clue is found in the consultation paper that was issued by Public Safety in preparation for this bill, which gave us a case study of what I think they mean. Here is the case study."
"An academic has a meeting with a foreign principal. It could be a diplomat; it is somebody who represents another government. They have a conversation or maybe multiple conversations. Shortly after, the academic writes an op-ed that is in favour of that country's position on a given issue. Maybe the academic also gives some lectures on campus in favour of or aligned - shall we say - with that government's position. That example is described in the consultation paper as an act of malign foreign interference, and it is my interpretation that the intent of this bill and the use of the term '. . . in association with . . .' would capture the acts of that academic.
But, colleagues, if an academic has a meeting with a foreign official and that academic later expresses a view which is closely aligned with the foreign government..."
"How do we know that the academic did not share the view in the first place?"
"Let me give you an example of why this is so problematic. An issue that will come before us very soon is the question of whether we should impose tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, or EVs. Some of you know that the Americans have imposed a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs. The Europeans have imposed a tariff on them as well, though at a lower level. There is already a debate in this country as to whether we should follow suit. The automotive manufacturers and other lobbying groups are in conversation with American interests, including state interests, to suggest that we should impose a similar tariff for a good reason: to protect our industry."
"At the same time, there are voices in this country saying we should not impose a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs because it is against our interests in the fight against climate change. I won't get into which side is correct here, but do you think that someone arguing in favour of a 100% tariff under the influence of, say, an American state-linked entity would get the same treatment as someone arguing against a 100% tariff who may have had a connection with a Chinese or Asian entity? I'm suspicious. I don't know. This is the kind of question we should be asking."
"There is so much more to talk about, but let me say that foreign interference is a serious issue. We should not stand for foreign interference. I understand the febrile nature of this debate and that no one wants to be seen as being on the wrong side of it. However, a bad bill will not help us in our fight against foreign interference, especially if it is cast so widely that fundamental rights are threatened and it leads to the stigmatization of individuals and groups who are seen as holding the wrong views."
"We have not given this bill the scrutiny it deserves, and I fear we will come to regret rushing it through our chamber."
https://sencanada.ca/Content/Sen/Committee/441/SECD/briefs/SECD_SM-C-70_Brief_ICLMG_e.pdf
"Proposed s. 20.4 - Influencing political or governmental process - should be revisited to include more specific definitions and introduce safeguards against infringing on participation in the democratic process."
"This section is particularly problematic, given the ease with which unsupported or baseless accusations are made that protest movements, that seek to influence public policy, are influenced or acting at the behest of foreign actors."
https://sencanada.ca/Content/Sen/Committee/441/SECD/briefs/2024-06-10_SECD_SM-C-70_Brief_CCLA_e.pdf
"Part 4 of the bill, which purports to create a foreign influence Registry, includes vague and broad language that contravenes the principle of democratic accountability. This language also raises concerns about the potential use of the Registry as a tool that could allow the government to monitor not only foreign influence specifically, but also, more generally, the international engagement of various actors, including foreign state-owned or funded media, academic institutions and charities, as well as international organizations such as the United Nations. These considerations potentially involve freedom of the press and privacy issues, as well as questions as to the place reserved for international organizations in Canada's ecosystem."
"For instance, it is possible that an individual who has been in contact with a foreign state-owned media or academic institution and who has then engaged with the public with respect to a Canadian political process would be required to provide detailed information to the Registry as to the individual's activities."
"Bill C-70's definition of 'arrangement' is also broad and notably includes an arrangement under which a person undertakes, 'in association with' a foreign principal, to communicate by any means information related to a political or governmental process."
"The term 'in association with' is not defined, and the comprehensive list of arrangements that will fall outside of the Registry's scope is again left to future regulation."
"This vague language, which does not require a subordinate relationship between the foreign principal and the person, could possibly capture individuals engaging with the public while being or after having been in contact with foreign state-owned or funded broadcasters, charities, organizations, or academic institutions, in addition to international organizations such as the United Nations."
"the proposed sabotage (essential infrastructure) offence carries a significant risk of deterring and suppressing peaceful protest. For context, the proposed new offence does not contain language around foreign interference as an element of the offence, and is therefore applicable in wholly domestic matters. Among our concerns are that,
- what constitutes a 'a serious risk to the health or safety of the public or any segment of the public' under s. 52.1(1)c is undefined, and could therefore capture conduct that does not pose a direct or imminent risk of bodily harm, e.g. it may be argued that a protest that disrupts major vehicular intersections in a city poses a serious risk because it interferes with police or ambulance response times;"