• arrow74@lemmy.zip
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    2 days ago

    Racists and fascists should be silenced.

    I’m sorry they are upset that they saw a minority or that they overheard people speaking a foreign language while being brown. They can get over themselves

    You don’t need to pamper these beliefs. You can lead the voters to the actual cause of the issue without allowing them to empower fascists.

    Usually the real issue is economic. Lack of housing, low wages, failing Healthcare. Those can be addressed. You don’t have to allow the group trying to blame poor minority groups a seat at the table. You address the real issues

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      14 hours ago

      “Oh no, a kebab stand on every street corner?!? What am I to do? Delicious, delicious kebab. I could try one from a different place every day and it would still take weeks to find the best one. This is unheard of! This is unfair! It’s the parliament’s fault! If they didn’t let in so many foreigners then I wouldn’t have this many choices before me. I could eat a good German currywurst, or a good German schnitzel, and not be inundated with so many options like ‘felafel or haloumi?’ or ‘döner or dürüm?’. This cannot stand!”

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        9 hours ago

        “I do love a good curry” - Piers Morgan

        Do you understand that we can simply take their recipes, and make it ourselves? You can have your kebab, while the rest of us can get a stable economy that can pay natives a decent loan, which they can use to actually buy a house, without getting fucked over by their corporate overlords because their loan is being undermined by the mass-immigration enabled by Liberal politicians - fuck them too.

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        13 hours ago

        Well expect the local Döner shop can stay, he’s one of the good ones you see

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          Yeah right, if AfD had their way that guy and all his nephews would get picked up at the grocery store or at the park or on their way to work or in their own homes, and saying “but I work at the local döner shop!” isn’t likely to help them much.

          Then all the right-wingers would start complaining when the döner shops all start shutting down, like “Those damn foreigners are abandoning me right when I need my lunch! I knew they were good for nuthin!”

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            It’s more of a joke on the people voting for the party and not the party line itself. The party means it

            Kinda the classic conservative thing of not seeing a problem until it effects them personally. Or at least a variation.

            The US is seeing the same thing, spouses voting for Trump then seeing their illegal/asylum seeking husband/wife deported and being shocked because “they were doing it right, or they were good not a problem”

            The cognitive dissonance is amazing

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      Usually the real issue is economic. Lack of housing, low wages, failing Healthcare. Those can be addressed.

      Mass-immigration is the issue I have identified (at least for the Netherlands, but the same case seem to exist for other European countries.

      You don’t have to allow the group trying to blame poor minority groups a seat at the table.

      True, the politicians that don’t seem to understand that if you let in 100k immigrations (netto), and only build 70k houses a year, there’s going to be a housing shortage. “but people can live together!”, yes, but you forget there’s another 100k of people being born. So now you have 200k people fighting for 70k houses. It’s a problem with an easy solution, but no one seems to be able to reduce immigration. I guess we should revert the Vreemdelingenwet 2000 (and the 1965 variant, which is when shit started hitting the fan in regards of migration).

      Then there’s the cultural issues with such a massive influx of people coming and leaving (2024 200k left, 300k cam in), it’s straight up bizarre. Culture takes a while to be taught, and if you have such a large group in flux, I don’t see how that’s healthy for the country.

      Before anyone things I’m some fascist: Racism is not a legitimate term. Something Leftists should know. Also, fuck Christianity and the Monarchy. I’m Dutch-Frankian, not “white” (whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean). Yes, I have a white skin, but holy shit I’m not similar to Celtics, Romanics, or Slavics, you weirdo.

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      The AfD doesn’t really give a shit about foreigners. They mainly use them to gain votes. All they care about is money and power. Blaming foreigners for all of the problems is the easiest way to get votes. They hate poor white Germans almost as much as brown people.

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        14 hours ago

        All they care about is money and power. Blaming foreigners for all of the problems is the easiest way to get votes.

        Hmm, I wonder who else tried this strategy in Germany’s history… 🤔

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        Blaming foreigners for all of the problems is the easiest way to get votes.

        The real issue is the politicians letting in insane amounts of migrants - I don’t care whether they come from the Maghreb, or the Appalachians. That is going to have VERY long-stretching effects, and politicians are crazily short-sighted. None of them has a 100-year plan for their own country. Absolute bonkers.

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        Oh, they care about foreigners and who they behold to be foreigners. They already had a conference, in quite close proximity to the Wannsee, to discuss how they would like to handle them. No extermination, yet. But the Nazis also didn’t start with death camps but plans for deportation or ethnic cleansing or remigration like it is called today.
        (Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Potsdam_far-right_meeting)

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          You’re absolutely right. But it is more a means of controlling anti-sentiments to gain votes and it works really well because they instill a fear into people that actually isn’t real. I’m fucking scared of what will happen when they come into power. What I meant with my comment is that they hate anyone who isn’t rich. A rich foreigner has nothing to fear as long as they play along. It’s disgusting.