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  • marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
    31·
    2 days ago

    I have to disagree there:

    1. The Ordinary World,

    Baby born to poor people in a manger

    1. Call to Adventure

    Three wise men show up and proclaim him the messiah and help guide him

    1. Refusal of the Call

    A literal 18 year time skip between age 12 and 30

    1. Meeting the Mentor

    Assumed why he returned from this time skip as a rabbi

    1. Crossing the Threshold

    Gaining his first disciples and preaching

    1. Tests, Allies, and Enemies

    Judas

    1. Approach to the Inmost Cave

    Acceptance of Judas’ betrayal

    1. Ordeal

    Obvious

    1. Reward 10) The Road Back 11) Resurrection

    I mean 9 10 and 11 are the same here. Dude came back from the dead.

    1. Return with the Elixir.

    He was said to grant boons to his former disciples before he left the second time.

    • justaman123@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 days ago

      You can’t argue with the faithful with facts, their beliefs don’t rest on facts. By it’s very nature it’s about believing a story they were told when they were children. Before they knew most things had to be priced with facts

    • KRAW@linux.communityEnglish
      41·
      2 days ago

      Lol, somebody hasn’t actually read the Bible. You have taken quite a few liberties, just in the first few points.

      1. Jesus is never portrayed as “ordinary.” He’s also not born in “ordinary” circumstances because he’s born in a time where the king is slaughtering infants due to a prophecy saying a new king will be born, hence how he ended up in the manger.
      2. The wisemen don’t proclaim anything. An angel appears to Mary before Jesus is born and tells her exactly what will happen and what to do.
      3. Jesus is a literal baby at this point. He can’t refuse anything
      4. Assumptions are of no value compared to facts, or at least something that is actually in a historical text or the actual Bible.
      5. This is not what “Crossing the Threshold” would be in the Hero’s Journey. It’s like Luke leaving Tatooine or Frodo leaving the shire. Jesus is the son of God, at least in the context of the New Testament. There is no “threshold.” He’s part of an omniscient being.

      and considering that’s almost half of the steps, I don’t think we need to go any further