“The major problem behind anonymity is toxicity,” argues digital governance minister

  • gian @lemmy.grys.it
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    1 day ago

    And this is so problematic. First of all, there’s really a chilling effect going on with putting your real identity to your online posts. I’m not sure if I would be posting on here if everybody could link my profile here to my real name. There is a reason why people are not discussing depression, drug use, or marital problems with their work colleagues or neighbors. And people really would not like if prospective employers could see everything they are writing online.

    I think that the big problem is that more than putting your real identity to your post there should be a way to identify you in case it is needed, anonymity cannot be a free pass to commit any kind of crime.
    Online you are not really anonymous anyway, your provider know where and when you go to a site, it would not be difficult to trace back to you if someone is willing to do it.

    I don’t know how this problem could be solved btw.

    There’s also a chilling effect on political debate. You really do not want your home address being available to violent Neo-Nazis, Hamas supporters, Covid-deniers and other idiots. That will lead to harassment and this will lead to people stopping discussing certain topics.

    Well, if anonymity is removed also the violent Neo-Nazis (or whatever) is exposed, maybe he would think twice before doing/saying something stupid knowing that nothing stop someone else to make him the victim of harassment or to be treated like an idiot or ignored at work (or any other real life situation) because people find his social accounts and simply decide to not interact with (if not totally boycott) him.
    Yes, maybe not the first time, but in the end people like these will return where they belong, in their small circle of idiots.

    • Ardyvee@europe.pub
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      Experience (see Facebook, in general, and the real name experiment) says that no, your last point does not hold. As it turns out, people are more than happy to be assholes with their names attached, never mind the many others who don’t want to make drama and are more than happy to keep hanging out with them.

      If you roam around the internet for long enough, in the right public areas, you are bound to find plenty of tales of families choosing to keep hanging out with abusers over the victims, never mind people who are just “being mean on the internet”.

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      Well, if anonymity is removed also the violent Neo-Nazis (or whatever) is exposed, maybe he would think twice before doing/saying something stupid knowing that nothing stop someone else to make him the victim of harassment or to be treated like an idiot or ignored at work (or any other real life situation) because people find his social accounts and simply decide to not interact with (if not totally boycott) him.

      how naive.

      a violent neonazi will show up at 3 am at your address with a balaclava. throw a molotov cocktail through your bedroom window and leave before the police arrives.

      • gian @lemmy.grys.it
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        15 hours ago

        a violent neonazi will show up at 3 am at your address with a balaclava. throw a molotov cocktail through your bedroom window and leave before the police arrives.

        A balaclava don’t save you if I know who you are.

        The point is that all these supposed “violent neonazi” are what they are because they think that they are “anonimous” on Internet but they have not the balls to do it in the real life, else there would be way more attacks you describe, after all there are a lot of people who already expose themself against them in the real life.