Against Israel, Against Palestine - For Class Struggle
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No stronger an image of the essence of nationalism can be seen than in the endless parade of coffins of Palestinians draped in flags. Nationalism is poison in the veins of the working class. Nowhere is this clearer than in Israel today. A working class stands divided and helpless, torn between two hostile bourgeois camps. Though the Israeli side has the entire weight of US imperialist muscle behind it this does not make the camps of Islamism and Palestinian nationalism less an enemy of the Arab workers.

Recently, I found out that Left-Communists largely do not believe in dialectical materialism. This viewpoint sounded preposterous to me, enough so that it piqued my interest to learn more about them and attempt to understand their positions. I came to find out that Left-Communists do not believe in supporting national liberation struggles. Naturally, I wanted to know what they thought about the most pressing national liberation struggle of our time, so I googled “Left-Communism Palestine” and I found this absolutely horrific article.

Just disgusting. I don’t think I need to explain why. The issues begin at the title, and it just gets worse as the article keeps going. There’s no need for me to debunk all its lies, it should be clear to any knowledgeable Marxist-Leninist and anti-Zionist.

This article really got to me, what an insult to all the martyrs who fought against the genocide of their people.

It boggles me that people follow this worthless ideology. It has not done a single thing for the emancipation of the world proletariat. Thankfully, it’s nearly completely relegated to online spaces.

Free Palestine, and victory for the Palestinian struggle.

  • LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml
    6·
    7 days ago

    I thought Maoism was depressing (no current countries that exist are considered socialist) with their denouncement of existing socialist countries, but being a left-communist is much more depressing (imagine being an orthodox Marxist, though… you would basically be stuck in the 1800’s and would have a poor understanding of imperialism as explained by Lenin).

    Why do left-communists reject Lenin? Unless they have some bizarre bourgeois conception of Lenin as the evil authoritarian revolutionary, I have a hard time seeing why they would disagree with Lenin’s theory (I feel like I read something about the leftcoms not wanting to participate in elections and trade unions… or something like that?).

    Edit: Ok from what I read from procapra, left communism is a diverse set of ideologies that are not as unified as I thought (and I also heard that Dutch and Italian left communists differed slightly), but still, I do not doubt that neither are relevant.

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      orthodox Marxist

      It’s even worse, every time someone claims they are “orthodox marxist” it’s always either someone so far off reality they couldn’t recognize theory even if it kicked them in the ass or a modern kautskyite who quotemine Marx to support succdems.

      • KalergiPlanner@lemmygrad.mlOP
        2·
        8 hours ago

        “Orthodox Marxism” is such a funny term, doubly so since they self-identify with it. Like what, is Marxism a religion or something? do we affirm Engels as the final messenger and that there is no revelation after him?

        This kind of dogmatism is ludicrous but its unfortunately not too rare since people in this bourgeois society are stamped with bourgeois education, thus they view Marx in the way they view other philosophers, endlessly interpreting his words rather than interpreting reality.

      • LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml
        1·
        6 days ago

        Bruh I thought Kautskyites died a hundred years ago after Lenin murdered the man with words so many times (Lenin did the equivalent of stomping on his grave with 500-ton boots, so I assumed no one took Kautsky seriously anymore… I guess not). Why would anyone genuinely be a Kautskyite? There are so many other reactionary or opportunist ideologies without someone so thoroughly chewed by Lenin’s sass.

        Honestly, if you are not a newly-developed communist, there is no reason to be an orthodox Marxist. Orthodox Marxism is just sad.

        • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          2·
          6 days ago

          Sadly they still exist, probably because the very core of socialdemocracy is the inability to learn anything. Though there isn’t many of them, succdems are also not known for remembering their theory so they just moved with generations to embrace the teachings and especially praxis of more modern succdems like Tony Blair.

          • LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml
            2·
            6 days ago

            Social-democrats really have messed up the social-democrat label so badly that they caused Lenin to not use it anymore (not actually sure if this is why, but it is funny to think of it as happening that way), so you know they are not good. Who is Tony Blair?

            • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
              2·
              6 days ago

              Tony Blair was leader of the British Labour party and PM in 1997-2007 who became symbol (together with German chancellor Gerhardt Schroeder but Schroeder is less remembered) of the complete collapse of any remaining embers of principles in western socialdemocrat parties, their ultimate betrayal of the working class and turn into the neoliberalism and US servilism which happened in entire Europe and prepared the way for current fascist resurgence. People like Kid Starver or Murder Merz or USula van der Lakai are his direct ideological descendants.

              So imo he deserve to be the 4th head on succdem banner after Lasalle, Bernstein and Kautsky