• Rob@lemdro.id
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    Why would an open source browser remove a feature just because a corperation did it. Talking like that, might as well use Chrome. Oh wait. But it’s *spyware / anti AdBlock.

    Why doesn’t Firefox make *using AdBlock harder since Google does the same? Firefox isn’t competing for Market share, it’s suppose to be an Opensource browser and being so should mean that you have the best features for the user, and not a company.

    Had you ever asked why would Google get rid of 3rd party cookies, and also ask, what did they replace 3rd party cookies with? another way for them to track you, and only them. They took potential revenue from sites that aren’t them just because they can.

    • King@lemy.lolOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      43
      ·
      9 months ago

      Third-party cookies make tracking users easier. I am not asking Firefox to follow Chrome at each step.

      I am just asking for the privacy browser to improve users’ privacy by removing support for third-party cookies, because it theoretically will not break anything.

      • c10l@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        35
        ·
        9 months ago

        3rd party cookies make tracking users easier when the same cookie can be used on many websites.

        Firefox does 2 things to protect you from that: it blocks known trackers cookies by default; and for the others it isolates them per domain so that kind of tracking doesn’t happen. That ensures you’re not tracked and at the same time it doesn’t break any functionality.

        If you want to completely block them you can. There’s more info here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/third-party-cookies-firefox-tracking-protection

      • Rob@lemdro.id
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        I do agree, that removing it would improve user privacy, however I feel that should be up to the user to decide on their own if they want or don’t want third party tracking cookies as it has been.

        The alternative that Google proposed I don’t think it’s any better then what is was before with 3rd party tracking cookies. I’d say it’s worse since it introduces new problems while keeping old problems under a new name.

        If everything goes through Google, no one has personal control and that’s what i’m against. This encourages what open source users should be against.

        • Spotlight7573@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 months ago

          I’m not sure how moving stuff like topics of interest into the browser where it can be modified/turned off by the user in a single, local location isn’t an improvement over the current situation?

          • atrielienz@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            9 months ago

            Because google is still tracking you. They are just getting rid of third party cookies being able to follow you on the web. They have fingerprinted the chrome browser itself, so every instance of it is unique to the individual using it (or their hardware) with the intent of continuing to track you while making it difficult for other third parties to do the same. And they’re using deceptive language to make it seem like that’s not what’s happening. That language may not work on everyone but it will work on the vast majority especially of younger gen people who just aren’t as tech savvy despite how much tech is integrated into their lives.

            • Rob@lemdro.id
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              9 months ago

              Yes, Google isn’t getting rid of tracking in it’s entirety, they’re just getting rid of the tracking competition on the Chrome browser. And no one has the guts to make their own commercial browser to stick it to Google and their monopoly, all we really have are open source browsers. Even Edge has to be open source to an extent since they borrow from Chromium.

              I wouldn’t go so far as to just assume that all younger gen people aren’t tech savvy. I guess it would just depend on the person and how casual or into tech they really are.

      • GBU_28@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.

      • Spotlight7573@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        9 months ago

        I believe Mozilla said it best here:

        https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2018/01/26/improving-privacy-without-breaking-the-web/

        Firefox’s privacy protections must be usable on the web, or people will simply stop using Firefox altogether.

        The web is not at the stage yet where third-party cookies can be disabled entirely. Chrome’s phase out of them this year should push all those sites still clinging to them to fix their sites. This should mean less problems when using Firefox’s privacy features. Firefox won’t necessarily need to remove the feature soon anyways since it already isolates them per site.