US President Joe Biden has said he is not confident there will be a peaceful transition of power if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.

"[Trump] means what he says, we don’t take him seriously. He means it, all this stuff about ‘if we lose it will be a bloodbath’.”

Mr Trump’s comment that it would “be a bloodbath for the country” if he loses the election, made as he was talking about the auto industry in March, triggered a wave of criticism.

The Trump campaign, however, said the comment was specifically about the auto industry and had been deliberately taken out of context. It sent a fundraising email which said Trump’s political opponents and others had been “viciously” misquoting him.

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    Like if youre american you must see that “constantly pushing for centrism” only pushes you rightward when Republicans push so hard for their policies

    Your initial misunderstanding is that you’re only thinking within the acceptable terms. Two things I think you might want to consider.

    First you’ve alluded to it multiple times which is the Overton Window. Which is shifting, but not only to the right in American politics. If you read the links I posted earlier, political violence in America is becoming more acceptable to the left as well.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

    The other is that there is such a thing as manufactured consent

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent

    You’ve also referenced that there’s lobbying and wealthy interest that gain undue power in a political system through what amounts to corruption but is called lobbying and regulatory capture.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture

    The best bet to defeat all of these. Believe it or not is ranked choice voting. Be prepared though, what follows is a special interest fire hose.

    A primer on what it could start as in the US https://www.npr.org/2023/12/13/1214199019/ranked-choice-voting-explainer

    How it can make lasting change https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/12/politics/ranked-choice-voting-ctzn/index.html

    How it leads to more moderate candidates https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-08-02/ranked-choice-voting-can-result-in-more-moderate-candidates

    And finally if you have the bandwidth for it a very wonky deep dive into plurality politics and their historical outcomes, and how the wealthy often fight them. https://brill.com/view/journals/copr/14/4/article-p416_416.xml

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      More moderate candidates in an a cesspool just gives you garbage. Lmfao “the left is pushing the overton window and wants violence” is some tripe. Trump was shot by a Republican. It sounds like youre a propagandized American that grew up in neoliberal hellscape. Why should anyone believe the rest. You’re not worth the price of the bytes on disk. “Manufacturing consent”, like Kamala, right? Like Bush, right? Man I don’t know what point you make, you just use buzzwords and say that proves a point. Wrap yourself in your fantastical solutions that will continue to lock yourself in the hellscape without actually solving anything. Whatever.

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        You’ve been here only 3 days and already are so defensive. I’ve decided that you’re willfully ignorant, unwilling to read sources, and are unable to post supporting sources for your points.

        I hope you heal your ego and reconsider your position. Have a calmer night. I’m not going to engage further with you about this as you are not able to support your argument or consider a viewpoint outside of your own. I don’t want to contribute to the divisiveness of the situation, no matter how much I shit post here. I think this might be of interest to you. I’ll give you some sources for the United States, since you as a Canadian have such a strong rigid opinion on our politics.

        https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-tech-platforms-fuel-u-s-political-polarization-and-what-government-can-do-about-it/

        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-social-media-makes-us-more-polarized-and-how-to-fix-it/

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          It’s hilarious that you consider the shit you’ve posted as “sources” as most of this is bottom-barrel definitions. There were some actual sources regarding implementation, which are interesting, but I see no gain in opening up a system that is already incredibly abused. Everyone always skips the whole “getting money out of politics” angle, and somehow believe this system will rid them of that.

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            I’m lost, you can read my responses but not my sources… I think it might be reading comprehension and not literacy that is your problem.

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              As per NPR, my point:

              But in practice, research has found that the voters who actually take advantage of the ranking opportunities tend to be white voters, and affluent voters with more education.

              “So it’s kind of continuing and appearing to multiply the disparities in our current democracy,” Jacobs said. “We need to be clear when we say ‘democracy’ that we mean a system in which there is equal participation.”

              Andrea Benjamin, an expert on race and voting behavior at the University of Oklahoma, agrees. She’s optimistic about the potential of ranked choice voting to improve representation in the U.S., but at the end of the day, any real transformative change to the political system will only come from higher voter turnout. You can change vote-tallying methods all you want, she said, but it’s still just a snapshot of the most motivated sliver of the population.

              Would you like me to continue to read your sources, and point out how this is just some gimmick that they’ll abuse just as easily? “In theory”… I mean in theory Donald Trump should be executed for high crimes against the USA. Those documents he stole, the bribes, dude didn’t even sell his company. It’s ridiculous. And you say that’s wanting violence? In theory, I just want the law upheld. But in practice…