• astutemural@midwest.social
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    6 months ago

    You could say the same thing about a picture of a cow with the text “Cows have feelings. Stop killing cows.”

    Yes, you could.

    heavy-handed vegan propaganda

    No such thing, only carnists desperate not to acknowledge their unethical behavior.

    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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      6 months ago

      I don’t think carnists are desperate, they just don’t care. They don’t view it as unethical.

      You can try explaining to someone the harms of the meat industry from an environmental standpoint, an animal rights standpoint, a food security standpoint, a worker’s rights standpoint, and some may be amenable with the right amount of convincing.

      But trying to bludgeon someone into compliance through shaming and demanding them to change is heavy-handed. And especially when carnists are in the majority, it’s not likely to be effective either

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        5 months ago

        as a full time carnist - I’m not desperate, I don’t see it as unethical, It’s not that I don’t care about science and health but the data I’ve found does not support the plant based movement, I’m open to new data but not propaganda or low hazard ratio epidemiology

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          5 months ago

          I’m curious what data you’ve found that doesn’t support the plant-based movement. Water consumption, the amount of grain it takes to produce a fraction of its weight in meat, methane emissions from factory farming, etc., all point to the need to at the very least reduce the scale at which meat is being produced