PrivacyGuide.net mostly has US providers for these and given the current situation with the US, let’s say using US services doesn’t feel very private at all, regardless of how strong the claims are.

I’m not looking for total privacy, but just to start being more private until the EU gets its ducks a row regarding payment systems (VISA and Mastercard still dominate and make you transparent or at least translucid).

  • IceFoxX@lemmy.world
    85·
    7 months ago

    Simple… Dont trust European spy solutions. Europe is the same bullshit

    Edit: Downvoters… Learn about 5,9 and 14 eyes… the agreements with America that give them access to everything, etc. Chat monitoring wasn’t the only bad thing… In the meantime, other things were pushed through… There’s a reason why providers are considering leaving the EU.

    https://lemmy.world/post/40527345

    Your “private” proton… https://lemmy.world/comment/21151608 But trust them they dont have keys… 🙄

    • staircase@programming.dev
      31·
      7 months ago

      Do you mean to say e.g. Proton is not private?

      I’m aware of five eyes, but how would that make Proton not private? Simply stating “n eyes” and “agreements with America” comes across strongly as unfounded conspiracy. Can you be much more specific?

        • ad3y@infosec.exchange
          2·
          7 months ago

          @IceFoxX @staircase Proton faces the same problems that any commercial organisation faces in that they have to operate according to their local laws and cooperate with their local law enforcement.
          They will offer a degree of privacy which is generally useful but you can’t expect them to protect you if you are planning a revolution :)