The collapse of the American empire would benefit almost every other country. I am starting to feel that since I live in America I should want to accelerate the collapse (or make sure one happens if things start to go back to business as usual). Can someone tell me why this is a bad idea so that I don’t make a mistake here.

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      Sure, I suppose, but the point is that being doomerist about org work and revolution just pushes all of the responsibility and agency to the global south, while we passively enjoy the spoils of imperialism. It’s selfish, and is common to western leftists that just purity test.

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          Sure, I don’t disagree. I don’t think we are disconnected, I just think it’s important to not deny the potential for revolution in the west.

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              Revolutionary potential isn’t 0, the most effective course is to organize and build dual power. The Empire is crumbling without our accelerating that, what we need to press is a correct political line and build up strong mass movements into a coherent vanguard.

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                I realise I Should’ve been harsher you can’t even build a people’s party and you want to build dual power? You have no infrastructure no network no popular support no nothing to even think this is possible is bordering on idealism

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                  Comrade, with all due respect, the idea that it would somehow be easier to form an underground guerilla movement that can meaningfully spark a civil war, and for the outcome of that civil war to not cause the utter devastation of the working class and marginalized peoples all over the imperial core is absurd. There are not hidden Maoist Red Guards engaging in protracted wars from Appalachia. There are no adventurist terror cells.

                  What exists is a dying empire lashing out against immigrants and marginalized peoples, the treat printer turning off the tap, and an increasingly politically aware working class. What we need to do is build up a vanguard, and unite the working class. We should not take notes from the Gonzaloites in Peru, we should take lessons from the Black Panther Party.

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                    Increasingly politically aware?! To you sure to me we got two sides here whites who hate immigrants and brown people and are either angry at them for not getting their treats (republicans) or want to exploit them further (democrats) and on the other side you got the oppressed and the colonised forced to suffer through this humiliation. Thats your mistake here there is no “working class” in America only the oppressed/colonized versus the colonizers