The first presidential debate is done and the aftermath has not been good for the incumbent, Joe Biden.

Some Democrat politicians and operatives reportedly texted CNN commentators with hopes that Mr Biden, 81, would step aside. Some floated the possibility of going to the White House and publicly stating concerns about him remaining as candidate.

But if Mr Biden were to drop out, it would be a free-for-all. There is no official mechanism for him or anyone else in the party to choose his successor, meaning Democrats would be left with an open (Democratic National Convention (DNC) in Chicago from August 19-22.

  • notanaltaccount@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    6 months ago

    It’s hard being intelligent enough to see the problems but lack the political will power and opportunity to change them.

    I believe you. I think Trump has a very good chance of winning and the result could be conflict among different states or groups within them. Unless the conspiracy theorists are right and the Gavin/Kamala ticket is already selected for the ballot and the win. But it seems likely Trump will win. The upper classes have engaged in price gouging because a Democrat was in office, Biden never called them out on it in aggressive way because he lacked the aggressive nature and rage and gall to do it, and an incredible number of people are feeling stressed out by price changes. There are also many swing voters unhappy with immigration policies and think they are too mild. Between the two issues, Biden would lose even if he did seem energetic and lucid.

    Do you think it’s bad enough that it makes sense to flee the US? And to where would one even flee? There are wars in Eastern Europe, it’s not even clear Western Europe is safe. I have always though Trump was likely in the pocket of Russia or an actual Russian Spy, so when Trump wins he will unequivocally support Putin, which will be a disaster because Western Europe can’t stand up to the evil of Putin and Trump alone… especially not when there are Chinese and Saudi alliances that Putin has been working on.

    It’s terrible but the best option is probably for Biden to escalate the war now, which he is unlikely to do since he’s sort of become a bit of a hippy. Putin sees Biden’s hippy weakness as well. If Trump is a Russian spy, the US intel agencies likely know and have to decide whether to do something to protect the country, even something that some might seem nefarious.

    It’s a terrible situation and mostly a distraction from the environmental catastrophy on the horizon.

    Do you think it makes sense to leave the US now? I am not that attached to anything and could go anywhere. I am white but don’t like bigots, which may impact my options.

    • Paragone@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      21 days ago

      Tbh, I think that the US is done for, as a country, but it’ll take years for the destruction to progress through its different phases…

      Trump promised his followers they’ll never have to vote again…

      Quite the promise, isn’t it?

      Quite the threat, from the perspective of all who aren’t his followers…

      Canada, EU, Down Under, other Commonwealth countries, British Isles, etc…

      Get out before 2031, as by then it’ll be too-late, & everything-turning-to-hell will be going on…

      IF some anti-Trump appears on the world-stage, decide if you want to be with them, & find some way of moving there…

      The US Civil War Part2 should begin in 2032 or so ( it seems to be a 7-8y cycle for each stage? ), & it should run for 7-8y, until the US is completely-destroyed, roughly 2040.