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RNAi [he/him]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 16 days ago

Dang it

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Dang it

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RNAi [he/him]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 16 days ago
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  • kristina [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Qing dynasty cause they were the last one and the last emperor was very good at sweeping streets mao-aggro-shining

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      It’s the one with the happiest ending.

  • Hestia [she/her, fae/faer]@hexbear.net
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    Mao dynasty gigachad-hd

  • miz [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    real Tang heads know

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      Tang seems to be really big especially amongst Cantonese people, they don’t just call themselves Chinese people, they call themselves Tang People. Chinatowns are actually called Tang People’s Street.

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    Ming

    OP outed themselves as a poorly informed Han nationalist (despite being Russian). Real OGs say Han or Tang, enlightened scholars say Song, people who say Ming are the same kind of people who would wear MAGA hats in america.

    • sisatici [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Only thing I know about ming dynasty is the meme below

      Cw NSFW text

      • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        The picture in that meme is a Qing dynasty copy of a very famous Tang dynasty painting called “Portrait of Confucius Teaching Disciples” by famous painter Wu Daozi. The Qing dynasty copy in the meme is from here: https://www.granger.com/results.asp?image=0043610 T

    • Dessa [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      What about people who say Qin?

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        mercury addict or book burner

        • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          This is why I go with Yuan.

          It’s all about the ¥¥¥

          • GoodGuyWithACat [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            Territorial maximalists.

        • RNAi [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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          Book burner is an anagram of OK Boomer

          really makes you think

          • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            ok bbounerr

            • RNAi [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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              when masterbathing time

        • ryepunk [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          But the mercury tomb shall ensure I live forever!

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Qin Shi Huang stans. The actual dynasty wasn’t that good since we’re accounting for the reign of his son and most of the legwork towards unification under Qin was done by his great-grandfather Zhaoxiang of Qin.

        • Dessa [she/her]@hexbear.net
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          But would you date a Qin fan?

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            yes, i would date me freedom-hater

    • we are all@crazypeople.online
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      I’m more of a han man myself.

      all hail silk road

    • Frivolous_Beatnik [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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      Cao Wei / Sima Jin all the way

      (grew up on RotTK and Dynasty Warriors as a gateway to interest in Chinese history)

      • 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        Later Han is definitely a case of “bad decisions make for good stories”

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    I don’t blame her, the answer is always TANG DYNASTY, the most progressive of the dynasties before 1947

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    Tang Dynasty supremacy, but you can also be like weird and say stuff like the Liao dynasty or the Jurchens (aka the Jin dynasty). For maximum chaos you can pull a Confucius and say your favorite dynasty was the Western Zhou.

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    I need to get into history. I feel stunted by this thread

  • EstraDoll [she/her, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I would say Yuan dynasty but I think that would start a massive argument

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      Favorite Chinese dynasty, favorite mongol horde, inventors of glamping

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      bruh-moment

    • RNAi [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      Why?

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    Qing Dynasty

    It is the most recent dynasty, and therefore has the most influence on modern Chinese politics and diplomacy, forming the basis for the modern borders of china. it was an incredibly fascinating period of history that dealt prominently with race, religion, culture, imperialism, and national sovereignty. The Manchu origin of this dynasty lead adopting and negotiating symbols of power between emperor and subject, and crystalized the idea of Zhonghua Minzu which is the modern view of “Chinese” encompasses a civic identity applying equally to all imperial subjects, distinct from ethnicity, language, or origin. This was also the period during which Tibet and Xinjiang were brought under Chinese authority, both with unique circumstances that continue to be relevant in the modern contexts. This was also the century of humiliation, which saw the rapid swing of China from the most powerful and wealthy empire in the world, to the most stricken, and is one of the most important historical episodes in Chinese political consciousness. Apart from that, the increasing contact with the west is an endless source of interesting stories; McCartney Embassy, Western Mansions of Summer Palace, the New Army, Hanyang Arsenal, Russian criminals caught in central Asia being sent as punishment to Guangzhou to become banner soldiers, etc.

    Honorable Mention: Xi Xia; very mysterious and artful western dynasty, patrons for the very beloved Mogao Caves, have a unique written language which looks bizarrely complex with an abundance of diagonal strokes. culture went extinct following the mongols, and their writing was utterly forgotten, such that no one even knew what language certain inscriptions on stone monuments in Beijing were, and it was only deciphered in modern times.

  • Monstertruckenjoyer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Is there return Chinese guys who want dynastic rule back?

    • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Probably, but more broadly China’s “philosophy” around rule is much more pragmatic than Western royalist brainrot. There is no divine right to rule if you lose the Mandate of Heaven. Nobody gives a shit if you can like trace your ancestry back to the last Song dynasty emperor, because obviously the Song lost the Mandate of Heaven to rule (since they haven’t rule China for ~1000 years) so why the fuck would a scion of a dynasty that lost the mandate have any “right” to claim they should rule? If that scion wanted to raise an army and take over China, they’re welcome to do so, and if they succeed they obviously attained the Mandate of Heaven, but that’s on them. So it’s very hard for a Chinese guy to be like “ah yes the third line removed of the second Sui emperor should be restored to the throne because of divine right” since that’s just not how succession or rule works in Chinese history.

      • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        As an addendum to this, (please forgive me for what I’m about to post) in the Netflix series “Bling Empire,” which is a reality housewives-esque show that traces the lives of very rich Asian-Americans living in Los Angeles, one of the characters on this show claims he can trace his ancestry back to one of the Song dynasty emperors. Nobody gives a shit about this except for Westerners, and he’s just a doctor now. His ties to “nobility” aren’t meaningful because In China there isn’t a feudal noble class to speak of, and there’s no like ancestral wealth he can tap into.

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      I haven’t encountered any. There are western Nazi weeb LARPers who talk about restoring Manchuria tho

  • tricerotops [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    I would have said Song but I have learned here my answer should have been Tang.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    there was only one true dynasty, and its name was Carrington

    • RNAi [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      That fight is horribly coreographed,

      Hot tho,

    • HexReplyBot [none/use name]@hexbear.netB
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      I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

      • yewtu.be
      • inv.nadeko.net
      • yt.artemislena.eu
      • piped.video
  • gramxi [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    trick question - the answer is no dynasty

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    Song supremacy. Tang is for poseurs.

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      Imagine having to move your capital outside the heartlands of China to the humid south. My beautiful Tang dynasty would never let northern China fall to steppe nomads! Please disregard the fact that the founder of the Tang was descended from steppe nomads thank you very much for you attention in this matter

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        An Lushan says hi.

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          Hey that only ended up killing like half the entire population of China and meant the Tang were under unofficial rule by the Uighurs for a period of a hundred years, ok, the emperor still reigned, True Han Patriots were still in control. Not like the Song who lost to arguably the greatest conqueror known to man ok geez

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    I don’t know which it was as they all kinda blur together for me but for me it would be whoever built up the silk road network.

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