I was encouraged to create an governance thread for discussion dedicated to community focused around the db0 lemmy instance users. Please see the linked post for context. I decided to leave my original post for potential discussion including voices of outsiders.

In short, not to duplicate information - I’d like to ask our community the following questions:

  1. Is the mod’s behaviour of proactively banning users from moderated communities without clear violation in accordance to the instance rules, especially The Golden Rules, which call for “cooperative participation”?
  2. If yes, what actions can be proposed to be taken next to alleviate the issue, not only with the two directly mentioned communities in the linked post, but also others that potentially fall a victim to this kind of mod misbehaviour?

It should also be appropriate to hear the stance of the involved moderators, why they do what they do, but obviously it is up to them to provide clarifications.

Thank you in advance, I love you all.

governance type: sense check

  • Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    Thank you for your response. I do agree that banning people en masse can have a negative impact in how people see me, and I don’t exactly like it even though I do it a lot. But I do it because at the moment Lemmy doesn’t have any other options to ameliorate the mass downvoting that my AI communities receive and they would be in the high negatives by now being seen and enjoyed by no one if I didn’t try to do something.

    Yeah I agree with that last part, it’s not good to let people see vulnerability. I don’t know about having a second account I’m bad at managing two accounts especially since I don’t use any fancy Lemmy apps, just the browser and my phone with a PWA thing so having more than one account would be a pain and I would probably forget. Also I feel like people would identify my alt anyway from my history here since I would still vent just as much there about the things I’ve already vented about. I already do try my best by not interacting much with them or simply reporting them. Though Lemmy is my only social media since I cut everything else off a while ago so it’s hard to do anything beyond not responding to and simply reporting trolls.

    • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      identifiable

      Not as much as youd think. Especially if you put your venting account on another home server.

      The combination might be a little rare, but users dont typically use advanced fingerprinting methods here, and it’s not totally implausible there’s more than one person who roughly matches your identity+fuckedness profile, especially if you use the more common/generic they/them pronouns on the alt, phase certain issues into ranting abt them on the alt from this one, etc.

      Even on your phone, you could add another lemmy app with different credentials.

      • Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 year ago

        Oh I wasn’t thinking that deeply that server admins would identify me through advanced methods I was thinking more that regular users including the trolls from fuck_AI would identify me through my behavior and the things I talk about. Since I already talked about them here.

        • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 year ago

          Like i said, users.

          Fancy writing style analysis is not something people are gonna do.

          Youd need to be either a serious slightly analyst flavored lit-fucker or use (and this is a rare actual (but evil) use case) your precious LLM’s. The former is vanishingly rare in yhese parts (at least as users), the latter i wouldn’t expect your exact threat profile to just use fucking reflexively.

          You’re fine. Maybe clean up your writing style if you want to be extra sure.