Hello everyone,
Thinking about this as the on-boarding experience on Lemmy can be subpar, especially because new joiners have to
- find a list of communities they could like (something like this post https://feddit.org/post/6554534, but should be there as a default)
- browse All and stumble upon all the news, political and tech that we know (https://lemmy.world/?dataType=Post&sort=TopDay)
In order to avoid this, what would you think of having a “new joiners” instance, where
- hexbear, lemmygrad and ml would be defederated
- politics and news communities would be blocked at the instance level
That could help to onboard people, so that the first time they look around, they see more gardening, cute comics and casual conversation rather than another set of depressing memes.
Disclaimer: politics and societal issues are important and should be discussed extensively (they are quite popular on Lemmy, let’s be honest). I’m not advocating to hide them all, just to not show them as the first content people potentially interested in Lemmy would see.
Experience for someone joining today and almost leaving Lemmy altogether because the instance they picked was laggy and not federating properly
Typically you do want to join a community with a good amount of users. it doesn’t have to be the most popular of instances but if it has few then 100 users then less content might federate onto that specific server.
However, there is a solution to your problem that you described even if your server is federated around as good: One way you can still get those missing servers is by first finding them with this if you find a community you like copy and paste the handler into Lemmy search on your server and then it should come up: (https://lemmyverse.net/communities)
I am aware of the way to solve the issue, but expecting a new joiner who just registered on the platform to copy-paste the communities links from a third-party website to the search to fetch them is unrealistic.
This is a major issue.
New users run the gamut of tech neophyte to very old hands. Both have reasons for not wanting to do this, even more, not knowing this can be done. As part of the “old hand” crowd, frankly I don’t have the time to go look for this stuff - it really needs to be upfront when you join.
I think, overall, what you’re talking about is the Discovery process for a new user. And with new users being new to lemmy, they don’t understand how it all works. I’ve yet to sign up to a new instance and have anything clarified, up front - how lemmy works, and not just “federated like email”, but how your stuff isn’t replicated (I get this, but most people don’t automatically get the implications of “federated, like email”). Also, what communities they federate, what they block, etc, again, in detail. This isn’t done because documentation is hard, no one likes to do it - I’m as guilty of this as anyone.
Getting new servers to do this would be challenging, but just like the sidebar for a community, it’s really crucial.
I think you’re on to a good idea.
There are a few posts on !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca, but they are far from exhaustive, and how to get new users there automatically is another challenge.
Yes. But really what I was aiming to be getting at when I said (in relation to your post) that on Lemmy the server doesn’t matter as much as say on Mastodon is because you can just join a community that is not dedicated to politics that you like. It was a general look at it.