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      Yes, I do. I also think that they largely contributed to the beggining of the WWII, hence it’s name that’s pretty self-explanatory. The thing is that, in academic history, any war starts with an event. That event is the invasion of Poland on the 1st of September, 1939. I hope you see where I’m going… We could trace back the causes of this war years, maybe even decades before it began, but that’s simply not correct (when talking about what pact/document led to it’s beggining).

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        Out of all the possible chosen start dates for World War 2, you go with the one that can be used to paint the Soviets in the worst possible light. Just a coincidence, though, I’m sure.

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        The thing is that, in academic history, any war starts with an event. That event is the invasion of Poland on the 1st of September, 1939.

        Wow and the war in ukraine started exactly in 2022 when the evil vladimir “voldemort” putin randomly decided to invade for no other reason than being evil, right?

        Wow you’re a fucking moron. Wars don’t start with “events,” WWI wasn’t started because some serb killed the Archduke, wars start because of historical and material trends provoking conflict over resources and territory. God you’re fucking stupid

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          Hmmm I wonder if Britain was doing anything questionable to India or France to Algeria during this timeframe

          Oh wait, I forgot, us-foreign-policy

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        What the fuck are you talking about. In academic history, it’s widely understood things don’t just appear out of thin air and the defining event of when nearly any conflict ‘starts’ is a very ideologically motivated choice. It’s exactly what you’re doing now and what Zionists do with the current genocide in Palestine

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        Ah yes, the spontaneous invasion of Poland that happened randomly and had no buildup, the “Big Bang” of WWII, if you will. All event are random, static, and devoid of context and preceding history.

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        The thing is that, in academic history, any war starts with an event.

        Only in shitty popsci history books do wars start with “an event,” because even bourgeois historians know to distinguish between proximate and ultimate causation.