"These things are important now to put clearly on the record and, I believe, help voters in Germany and France understand that some of this politics is instigated via our enemies, namely Russia," media reports Burnham saying.

“These things are important now to put clearly on the record and, I believe, help voters in Germany and France understand that some of this politics is instigated via our enemies, namely Russia,” media reports Burnham saying.

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    14 days ago

    Your story would make sense if you assume Russia wants peace.

    Russia wants war.

    • humanspiral@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      13 days ago

      absurd. since 2014, Russia pursued peace through Minsk accords. Even though nazi US empire signed it hypocritically as a delay tactic for instigating the war, the signing was an explicit admission that Ukraine had a nazi ethnic cleansing problem towards the Donbas. Russia has offered peace condition throughout special military operation. As Blinken admitted, for a war the US totally didn’t force upon Russia, “it is a strategic imperative for the US to diminish Russia through continuation of this war”.

      The cognitive deficit level of those who support the war on Russia is extremely troubling.

      • Skullgrid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        13 days ago

        since 2014, Russia pursued peace through Minsk accords.

        Sure. Give back Crimea.

        • RedLink@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          2·
          12 days ago

          While Russia is a capitalist power and as such has its own contradictions and reasons to resist support, Ukraine also has US backed Fascists in charge of it’s military and government. So much so that the first thing they did after their coup was pass a ban on Russian language. Something that has expanded to destruction and banning of Russian literature, music, Holidays, property names, historical figures, and more. After the coup there were right wing extremists attacking ethnic Russians including the protests in eastern Ukraine. They were then recruited into the military to “de-radicalize” them. Of course this just made the violence sanctioned by the state. Shortly after the Donetsk, Luhansk sought federalization to protect themselves from Russiaphobia. Instead of respecting independent elections Ukraine bombed the hell out of them.

          While yes I’m sure that Russia seeks to use Crimea and the other regions to its personal benefit. You have to realize the danger in returning Crimea, a predominantly ethnic Russian area, to a state that has weaponized and supported its fascists to ethnically cleanse Ukraine. The people support Joining Russia because it was Ukraine that said they were not Ukrainian. Not the other way around. If you look prior to the Euro-maiden you’ll find many ethnically Russian areas agreed that they believed themselves to be Ukrainian. It changed because Ukraine was taken over.

          It is dangerous for Russians in Ukraine, not because of Russia but because of the US and western powers funding Right wing extremists. As such, areas that are mostly ethnically Russian do not want to be ruled by the Ukrainian government anymore.

          Edit: I mispoke and said that Donetsk, Luhansk declared independence when actually they still wanted to be part of Ukraine but have it federalized. Which would let them choose their own rules such as preventing the language ban and keeping Russian as a government language in the region.

          Previous vers:

          Shortly after the Donetsk, Luhansk declared independence to protect themselves from Russiaphobia. Instead of respecting independent elections Ukraine bombed the hell out of them.