• TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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    1 month ago

    Biden-Harris genocide is probably more harmful as it gets liberals to consent to it, both domestically and through more competent foreign policy maneuvers. Though even then they are pushing beyond what the NatSec should want.

    Though really, I don’t think I should need to say or repeat this: you should oppose genocide. Attempting to lesser evil it is disgusting and, of course, very poor logic.

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      1 month ago

      What about Ukraine? Trump will hand over everyone in that country while speeding up climate change with “drill baby drill”. As the world becomes less livable, more wars and genocide will fallow.

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        1 month ago

        What about Ukraine?

        First, under no circumstances should you support genocide. Stop trying to excuse genocide. Actually fight against it. You know that question, “what would you have done against the Holocaust?” Right now it would be, “fret about which Hitler to support and make excuses about how Jewish people would be killed anyways”.

        Anyways.

        The Biden-Harris administration’s policies on Ukraine are exacting maximum pain on the people of Ukraine, using them as a tool to hurt Russia. At every step of the way, only maximum pressure on Russia has been their consideration. So either accept that the most likely outcome of Trump there would be a deescalation or acknowledge that the motivation here is bloodlust.

        Trump will hand over everyone in that country

        Ukraine already lost. Its future has been mortgaged to western financial interests and it will not be regaining its lost territories. The people therr have been shelled by Kyiv’s far right forces (the ones with Nazi tattoos) for a decade, they aren’t sympathetic to Kyiv even if some territory were, under wild circumstances, returned. It was never plausible for Ukraine to win militarily. All of liberals’ talk about Ukraine is fantasy children’s tales that have nothing to do with reality.

        Dragging out Ukraine is just forcing more death and disposession on the Ukrainian people.

        while speeding up climate change with “drill baby drill”.

        The Biden-Harris administration has set record levels of US fossil fuel production and is an exporter of oil and natural gas. Harris has publicly promised to support fracking, a tool that, when novel, Obama used as an international weapon to crash oil prices and hit targets of US empire - Venezuela, Russia, Iran.

        Both parties are against the continued survival of humanity re: climate change, one of them just pretends otherwise, throwing money at a domestic renewables industry that largely just routes it to finance and tech rather than produxtive capacity. Oh, and continuing Trump’s trade war on China, which is currently threatening to end large swaths of the US solar industry as installations of new solar panels are waaaaay backed up.

        As the world becomes less livable, more wars and genocide will fallow.

        So get off your butt and start fighting the good fight! Cheerleading genocidal frackers definitely isn’t that.

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      1 month ago

      Adults realize that one is lesser and you can choose lesser or abdicate your choice. Buck up and grow up kiddo