The time theft has a far reach. I’ve worked with kids who’ve gone inpatient for mental health, acting out in school, etc. Why? Because mom isn’t there. It’s not willful neglect. It’s neglect through not neglecting her motherly duties by working 2-3 jobs to keep the lights on and shoes on her child’s feet.
Time is a key reason we need to be paid more, have a much higher minimum wage, though it isn’t often mentioned.
That’s it right there. The politicians are always rambling “We need jobs.”
No. We need money, which might come from decent jobs.
“Jobs for jobs’ sake” is how we have mental health crises from countless practically-parentless households because everybody’s desperately, constantly working in needlessly stressful conditions.
Jobs are why most of us have no meaningful connections shortly after our highest level of schooling, because everyone’s on wacky schedules and has no time for anyone but the shallowest relationships with whomever they happen to be stuck working with.
Jobs gave us broken homes and skyrocketing suicide rates.
Jobs can shove right off, for all they’ve taken from us, and our “bosses” can be sunk into the deep right along with 'em.
I was fortunate. We were considered poor but not so poor that mom wasn’t home with us. Thrift clothes and homemade clothes (a very cheap option in the 80s) got us teased mercilessly, but the parents were present.
There have been articles lately about the young generations aging faster. It’s always been noteworthy in medicine. People, on the worst case scenarios, looking 60 when they’re 40. Not from outdoor life but just hard life. Given the overt stress the younger gen’s are under on all sides it fits.
Minimum wage isn’t going to cut it anymore. We need UBI.
Democracy is the idea that political authority is derived from the people. The government’s power to levy taxes and conduct its business is taken from We The People; We The People should be fairly compensated for the use of that power. We should each be paid a citizenship dividend of 75% of the current poverty level, before we put a single hour on the clock.
Current Poverty line for a single person is $16000. $12000 is 75% of the current single-person household. $12,000/yr, free and clear, before you leave for work on Monday morning. You’re above the poverty line by noon on Monday.
You and your partner are both receiving the same UBI. Together, you’re receiving $24000/yr. That’s 110% of the current poverty rate for a household of two. You’re above the line just from your UBI.
For you, your partner, and your two kids, that’s $48000/yr. That’s 145% of the poverty line for a household of 4.
Does that still seem unreasonable? I’d be ecstatic over 25%.
Even getting a single dollar each year would be nicer than the zero I get now, but I’d rather get fully reimbursed for letting people monopolize my share of the earth. They have no right to claim that for themselves in the first place.
If UBI was intended to be the single, primary source of income, I’d agree that it is too low. But it isn’t. The economic purpose is, basically, to remove human need and desperation from contract negotiations and labor agreements.
It’s easy to exploit a drowning man. UBI is intended to keep your head above water, so you can always afford to walk away from a shitty boss.
Why should they have to work for somebody else if they don’t want to? If I’m single and looking at getting paid below the poverty level, then my head is not above water.
We’re the rightful landlords, getting paid less than the sum of all rents.
Who said anything about working for someone else? You’re free to conduct your own affairs in any manner you want to. I, personally, want to see that you are compensated for the use of your political authority in our democratic system of government. You don’t have to accept that compensation. If you really want nothing to do with any sort of democratic society, you’re free to withdraw from it entirely.
But that’s pretty much the extent of my interest. You acquire your political power by virtue of being human; the most you are “owed” for the government’s use of your political power is that which you need to continue being a human. (Technically, you are owed less: You already receive the benefits of law and order that arise from the government’s use of your political powers. The monetary value of the rule of law could be deducted from your “citizenship dividend” and it would still be fair and reasonable.)
UBI does not replace work. It removes the exploitative factors from work. It enables you to take on the risk of working for yourself. Today, you might need 20 hours of wages a week just to live, and you can only devote another 20 hours a week toward your preferred project before you are considered “overworked”. With UBI, your “just to live” hours are zero, and you get to devote all your time to your preferred project. That might be gainful employment; that might be charitable work; that might be artistry or writing; that might be gooning 16 hours a day and playing CoD all night.
This “rightful landlords” stuff you’re talking about might arise from some other economic system, but not from a “citizenship dividend”. Not from “UBI”. You are “made whole” for the conveyance of your political powers as a human when your essential human needs are minimally met; that’s all UBI is for.
What you seem to be describing is more like society claiming “eminent domain” over all land, taxing everyone who uses the land, and paying that tax out to everyone. In which case, yes, you’ll receive something for everyone else’s land use. But you’ll also owe something for your own land use. You’ll owe a lot of money on the valuable residential land where you lay your head. You’ll receive a pittance on the cheap agricultural and industrial land used to feed and clothe you. The net flow of money will be opposite the way you think it will be: The farmer and the industrialist will be receiving more than they are paying, for utilizing land that is useless to the overwhelming majority. (Commercialists will pay more than you, though…Commercial land is vastly higher value than residential, which is more valuable than industrial, which is much more valuable than agricultural, which is more valuable than mining lands)
The time theft has a far reach. I’ve worked with kids who’ve gone inpatient for mental health, acting out in school, etc. Why? Because mom isn’t there. It’s not willful neglect. It’s neglect through not neglecting her motherly duties by working 2-3 jobs to keep the lights on and shoes on her child’s feet.
Time is a key reason we need to be paid more, have a much higher minimum wage, though it isn’t often mentioned.
That’s it right there. The politicians are always rambling “We need jobs.”
No. We need money, which might come from decent jobs.
“Jobs for jobs’ sake” is how we have mental health crises from countless practically-parentless households because everybody’s desperately, constantly working in needlessly stressful conditions.
Jobs are why most of us have no meaningful connections shortly after our highest level of schooling, because everyone’s on wacky schedules and has no time for anyone but the shallowest relationships with whomever they happen to be stuck working with.
Jobs gave us broken homes and skyrocketing suicide rates.
Jobs can shove right off, for all they’ve taken from us, and our “bosses” can be sunk into the deep right along with 'em.
I was fortunate. We were considered poor but not so poor that mom wasn’t home with us. Thrift clothes and homemade clothes (a very cheap option in the 80s) got us teased mercilessly, but the parents were present.
There have been articles lately about the young generations aging faster. It’s always been noteworthy in medicine. People, on the worst case scenarios, looking 60 when they’re 40. Not from outdoor life but just hard life. Given the overt stress the younger gen’s are under on all sides it fits.
Minimum wage isn’t going to cut it anymore. We need UBI.
Democracy is the idea that political authority is derived from the people. The government’s power to levy taxes and conduct its business is taken from We The People; We The People should be fairly compensated for the use of that power. We should each be paid a citizenship dividend of 75% of the current poverty level, before we put a single hour on the clock.
Below current poverty levels? We’ve already got the technology to provide for everyone according to their needs.
Current Poverty line for a single person is $16000. $12000 is 75% of the current single-person household. $12,000/yr, free and clear, before you leave for work on Monday morning. You’re above the poverty line by noon on Monday.
You and your partner are both receiving the same UBI. Together, you’re receiving $24000/yr. That’s 110% of the current poverty rate for a household of two. You’re above the line just from your UBI.
For you, your partner, and your two kids, that’s $48000/yr. That’s 145% of the poverty line for a household of 4.
Does that still seem unreasonable? I’d be ecstatic over 25%.
That still feels awfully low.
Even getting a single dollar each year would be nicer than the zero I get now, but I’d rather get fully reimbursed for letting people monopolize my share of the earth. They have no right to claim that for themselves in the first place.
If UBI was intended to be the single, primary source of income, I’d agree that it is too low. But it isn’t. The economic purpose is, basically, to remove human need and desperation from contract negotiations and labor agreements.
It’s easy to exploit a drowning man. UBI is intended to keep your head above water, so you can always afford to walk away from a shitty boss.
Why should they have to work for somebody else if they don’t want to? If I’m single and looking at getting paid below the poverty level, then my head is not above water.
We’re the rightful landlords, getting paid less than the sum of all rents.
Who said anything about working for someone else? You’re free to conduct your own affairs in any manner you want to. I, personally, want to see that you are compensated for the use of your political authority in our democratic system of government. You don’t have to accept that compensation. If you really want nothing to do with any sort of democratic society, you’re free to withdraw from it entirely.
But that’s pretty much the extent of my interest. You acquire your political power by virtue of being human; the most you are “owed” for the government’s use of your political power is that which you need to continue being a human. (Technically, you are owed less: You already receive the benefits of law and order that arise from the government’s use of your political powers. The monetary value of the rule of law could be deducted from your “citizenship dividend” and it would still be fair and reasonable.)
UBI does not replace work. It removes the exploitative factors from work. It enables you to take on the risk of working for yourself. Today, you might need 20 hours of wages a week just to live, and you can only devote another 20 hours a week toward your preferred project before you are considered “overworked”. With UBI, your “just to live” hours are zero, and you get to devote all your time to your preferred project. That might be gainful employment; that might be charitable work; that might be artistry or writing; that might be gooning 16 hours a day and playing CoD all night.
This “rightful landlords” stuff you’re talking about might arise from some other economic system, but not from a “citizenship dividend”. Not from “UBI”. You are “made whole” for the conveyance of your political powers as a human when your essential human needs are minimally met; that’s all UBI is for.
What you seem to be describing is more like society claiming “eminent domain” over all land, taxing everyone who uses the land, and paying that tax out to everyone. In which case, yes, you’ll receive something for everyone else’s land use. But you’ll also owe something for your own land use. You’ll owe a lot of money on the valuable residential land where you lay your head. You’ll receive a pittance on the cheap agricultural and industrial land used to feed and clothe you. The net flow of money will be opposite the way you think it will be: The farmer and the industrialist will be receiving more than they are paying, for utilizing land that is useless to the overwhelming majority. (Commercialists will pay more than you, though…Commercial land is vastly higher value than residential, which is more valuable than industrial, which is much more valuable than agricultural, which is more valuable than mining lands)