Skip Navigation

InitialsDiceBearhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearhttps://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/„Initials” (https://github.com/dicebear/dicebear) by „DiceBear”, licensed under „CC0 1.0” (https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/)W

webadict

@ webadict @lemmy.world

Posts
0
Comments
305
Joined
3 yr. ago

  • Kamala Harris Says She Has “Concerns” About Trans Student Athletes

    Jump

  • The first is that trans women do not have a big advantage over cis women. They have, at best, a very slight advantage, depending on their time on HRT and age.

    The second is that there isn't a lot of trans people. Trans people make up around 2-3% of the population, so they would have around 1/30th of the number of teammates in their school. That would be difficult to make a full team around. And because they're segregated out, they would need to find other teams to play against, as well.

    The third thing you're missing is that you really only care about trans women in this debate. Do you care if trans men compete against cis men? They compete at very similar levels, too, and if you think being born as a woman is a disadvantage, then why do they do just as well after transitioning?

    And the last thing is that we have gendered leagues due to a sexist history behind sports. Women weren't allowed to compete in a variety of sports for a long time. Women's leagues were initially created for the same reason black leagues were created. We have kept them because they are a really lazy way to determine what category of play you are in, as though they act similar to weight classes in wrestling. But athletes within the same sex can compete at completely different abilities for different reasons. Taller players can have a much bigger advantage against shorter players in a ton of sports, so why don't we use height as a determiner of which league you play in instead?

  • Priorities

    Jump

  • Gunshot Gary keeps shooting himself in the leg to build up an immunity.

  • This “flashing red siren warning sign” indicates that Republicans could lose the House next year

    Jump

  • Don't take this the wrong way, but go fuck yourself. If elections, laws, voting didn't matter, people wouldn't be trying to convince you they don't.

  • A jeweler friend of mine banned from /r/somethingimade because he recreate a ring found in a viking burial site with inscription "for allah" citing it promotes terrorism.

    Jump

  • God only said to honor thy father-san and thy mother-san, didn't really have clear instructions on himself.

  • Vacuum Sealed

    Jump

  • I think that's the girlfriend, but I think it's generally frowned upon to use terms like yellow to describe people.

  • Minnesota teen says server forced her to prove her gender in restaurant bathroom

    Jump

  • Slaves weren't forced to work! They clearly had a choice to not work and be harmed or killed, as well!

  • I'd ring that

    Jump

  • Chitin.

  • 'Whites-only' community banning Black, Jewish and gay people set up in Arkansas

    Jump

  • Fascists don't consider all white people to be white.

  • Removed Locked

    Trump Stealing Honor

    Jump

  • All the people on Epstein's client list

  • US Olympic policy change bans transgender women in women's events

    Jump

  • But, I think you don't want sports segregated by sex assigned at birth, either. If you did, you would have trans men competing against women. And again, trans men still compete and win at sports while competing against other men just like any other masc athlete, and if your argument is that men, as a category, are better than women at sports, then you won't accept trans men competing against women, either.

    The thing is, there's not much point debating you. It feels like you would probably be okay with excluding trans people from sports, and that feels more and more like the point with these types of debates. And if you are okay with trans men competing against men, then is it not kinda bigoted to not also be okay with trans women competing against women? Why exclude them for doing everything they can to make it fair? Even the Olympics had a plan for trans athletes that was statistically shown to be fair for competitors based on medical experts.

    Like, in a perfect world, there would be better sports categorization, but until that point, we see trans women perform like women and trans men perform like men, so that is where we should allow them to compete. And if there is some sort of issue where someone (male or female, trans or cis) dramatically over performs, that would be a better time to deal with that particular one-off.

    Anyway, feel free to look into long- and ultra-distance running for instances of women getting closer to men's times, but, heck, women are closing the gap in shorter running competitions as well, even if at a slower rate. As for the 7% to -13% advantage, trans athletes were compared against cis athletes in a variety of activities, testing things from jump height to grip strength to wingspan, and the advantages in most categories ranged from a 7% advantage to a 13% disadvantage for the trans athlete on average. The biggest issue is that there just aren't enough trans athletes to know how much of an advantage or disadvantage being trans gives you, but, on average, it is likely to be pretty minimal if there even is one.

  • DEMS PULL UPSET ON EPSTEIN FILES: Democrats dropped an 11th-hour motion at an unrelated hearing after noticing that most GOP members on the panel had publicly demanded the files be released.

    Jump

  • Apologies. That was meant to be sarcastic, and not a blame on Democrats. I was mostly making fun of the extreme lengths people are going to to say that the Republicans are somehow not to blame for this.

  • DEMS PULL UPSET ON EPSTEIN FILES: Democrats dropped an 11th-hour motion at an unrelated hearing after noticing that most GOP members on the panel had publicly demanded the files be released.

    Jump

  • Keep on trying. One of these days, those Democrats will turn around and say not to reveal this info, and then that'll vindicate the child-loving Republicans.

  • DEMS PULL UPSET ON EPSTEIN FILES: Democrats dropped an 11th-hour motion at an unrelated hearing after noticing that most GOP members on the panel had publicly demanded the files be released.

    Jump

  • Hey, where's all those losers that kept saying the Dems didn't actually want it released? Come on out of the woodwork, ya fucking losers.

  • US Olympic policy change bans transgender women in women's events

    Jump

  • Your argument is that these are unfair, but I pointed out the exact scenario you are saying is unfair. You can argue that any biological difference a trans woman has compared to a cis woman is unfair, but does that mean a cis woman who has all of those things is also unfair? And if the answer is no, then... Why is there even a problem?

    These aren't inherently unfair. They are perceived to be unfair because of how we segregate these sports and because we automatically just assume trans women are stronger, better, faster, etc than cis women, which isn't true. Again, the statistics we have show that cis and trans athletes have a statistical advantage in a wide variety of sports and activities between 7% to -13%.

    Like, we see similar outcomes for trans men, and these concerned people do not give a shit about those athletes. You would think trans men would absolutely fail compared to men, given how poor these people think female athletes compare, but they don't. They do just as well compared to their cis counterparts.

    Hell, several sports are starting to have women with results similar to men. Sure, a lot of weight and strength-based sports still see substantial differences, but many stamina- and speed-based sports are becoming quite competitive. This is why cultural differences also matter. A lot of our sports and health science is geared towards male athletes, and we treat female sports and competitors as lesser, from how we fund them to how we train them.

  • US Olympic policy change bans transgender women in women's events

    Jump

  • See, the thing is, I disagree. No one would take the years it takes to transition for the unknown potential advantage. We do not know what amount of advantage or disadvantage transitioning would give, and the evidence we currently have says that there isn't a statistical advantage.

    These policies don't even protect cis-women. Women born with hormonal abnormalities or genetic advantages are directly impacted. These are seen as beneficial in male competitors (Michael Phelps is a genetic lottery winner and should probably be in his own league), but if a woman happened to benefit by having naturally higher testosterone production, height, or skeletal structure, should she be excluded from competing against women? Then the only difference between that hypothetical trans athlete and cis athlete is... That they are trans.

    Most of this issue is really due to how we segregate sports. We arbitrarily use gender/sex because there are genetic and cultural differences that mostly correlate to difference in outcomes. There are better ways to segregate sports (ala weight classes in boxing) that would more fairly match opponents, but we don't do these. Why? Mostly laziness, somewhat historical systems of oppression.

    So, no, I don't agree. When you can find a trans athlete that transitioned for am advantage, I will acknowledge your point.

  • US Olympic policy change bans transgender women in women's events

    Jump

  • Do you not think a cis-female 52-year old former athlete and ex-Navy could play college basketball as well or better than Gabrielle Ludwig? Mission College didn't go to playoffs the one year that Gabrielle Ludwig played 30 minutes a game.

    Do you... Do you think older women are shit at basketball?

  • US Olympic policy change bans transgender women in women's events

    Jump

  • Name one transfem Olympian that this ruling protects against. Which of those girls are out there stealing medals?

    Like, imagine an athlete so dedicated to trying to win that they spend years paying stupid amounts of money to go to a psychologist, go on HRT, get surgery, and deal with unbelievable amounts of stigma on top of the training you also would need to do in order to get almost no advantage (or possibly negative advantage) instead of just buying steroids.

    Imagine being stupid enough to believe that.

  • Jeopardy!'s Ken Jennings won't support Gavin Newsom for president due to trans kids stance

    Jump

  • ... That makes sense. Whoops!

  • Jeopardy!'s Ken Jennings won't support Gavin Newsom for president due to trans kids stance

    Jump

  • I don't think anyone will read that, but I did. The thing is, you're not really wrong. But you aren't going to appeal to anyone like that.

    Do you just want to be angry? Do you just want to yell? I feel that.

    Personally, yes, I would rather have had non-Trump than Trump. There weren't really any other viable options besides Kamala when I voted. No third party vote would've saved us, even if I convinced literally everyone I know to do the same. But Kamala was much better than Trump, and you brought up good reasons why. She can be bullied into being better. Heck, Gavin Newsom can be bullied into being better. I don't really like either of them, but I have limits to what I can affect, and I chose that which I could.

    Unfortunately, it's everyone's mess. We all have to clean it up. I didn't cause it. Heck, even people that don't live here probably have to help, and they're the least to blame for it. But, that's kinda how it works. Start small, and go from there.