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threeduck

@ threeduck @aussie.zone

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  • There's a lot of awful things in culture. It was culturally acceptable to slap a women on the bottom for a good job.

    Your argument is "ah well".

    That's not a reasonable defense for your objectively immoral actions. You are causing the suffering of sentient life for taste, that makes you immoral. Not to mention the horrible effect your diet has on the planet.

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  • What bizarre logic, what thorough lack of object permanence.

    Just because meat eating outpaces veganism doesn't mean vegans haven't reduced the consumption of meat?

    I don't even think you know what you're saying now. If the whole world went vegan today, there'd be no meat animal slaughter. YOU are the cause of this problem.

    "Oh world hunger is getting worse, I better stop my charity donations!"

    "Oh greenhouse gas emissions are on the rise, might as well go back to oil and gas!"

    Like, you realise how foolish that argument is, right?

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  • The argument works for a Western audience that are okay with killing and eat some animals, but find it abhorrent to eat others. Most people don't like the idea of dogs in pain, and if we did rear dogs like we do pigs, there would be huge public outcry.

    And sure, you get Redditors and Lemmy-ites who go "Oh ho i'd eat dog!", but they mean they'd try the meat once at a market, to maintain moral consistency. The truth is they'd be just as horrified if they saw dogs yelping in factory farmed cages, like we treat chickens.

    But there's no reason to treat some animals one way, some another. They all feel pain, they all feel misery, they all call for their children once they've been culled. It's objectively immoral to eat meat when not for necessity.

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  • Great, so we agree no animals are ethically off limits to kill and consume. How about... Some of the more simple minded human populace? Like, if through IQ testing we find the bottom 5% of humans, and (without eating brain and spine, avoiding prion diseases) feed them to the masses? They're probably not terribly much smarter than dogs, and they could help curb food shortages. Or are humans off limits?

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  • Hey it's only a trap if your argument falls for it. When have I lied? Stop arguing weird imagined semantics and actually reply like a human. Why do you think it's okay to kill and consume sentient life?

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  • What? Try harder to what? Don't defend yourself in court hahahaha. "Does the defense have any closing statements?" "Uh yes your honour. Ahem. leans into mic t-try harder"

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  • Hahaha just answer the question. You're like that meme that goes "APPEAL TO AUTHORITY, STRAWMAN FALLACY" in the middle of a normal conversation. Likr, if you're in a debate and someone pushes your argument into a corner, you can't go "no, judged the opposing team is using gotcha arguments that make mine look foolish, I object".

    Gotcha!

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  • I have no intent to deceive. There's a moral inconsistency amongst meat eaters. Pigs are okay, dogs are not. Why? "Oh, because we like dogs" Does that mean I can eat any sentient thing I dislike? "Well, no, dogs are intelligent!" Pigs are smarter than most breeds of dog, and have equal capabilities for emotion.

    There is no logical argument against veganism in western society. Literally none. Meat eaters collectively breed and kill literally billions of animals per year, destroying the planet, because it's yummy. Meat eaters have essentially caused swine flu, bird flu, ebola, corona virus, just for the taste of meat. Meat eaters are causing treatment resistant bacteria by abusing antibiotics on high intensity farming, all for meat. That's crazy.

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  • Gamey unless reared correctly. Better to eat pet dogs as the meat generally tastes juicier. It can sometimes be unpleasant bolting them before slitting their throats after they've lived inside for so long, but knowing they lived a happy life free of predators, and didn't die of old age (try to kill before they become yearlings) makes it feel right.

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  • I suppose when you presuppose superiority over sentient life for no other reason than your own pleasure, it's quite easy to become racist.

    You're dawn right "ew"!

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  • I agree! There's actually a few human races I consider acceptable to eat, what a breath of fresh air to find someone like minded!

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  • Hypothetical moral questions posed genuinely is not trolling. If you're okay with eating cows and pigs, why is eating dogs considered trolling?

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  • Don't let perfection be the enemy of good. If everyone stopped eating animals, there'd be no surplus of blood and bone for fertilisers, and other plant based by-products would fill the space.

    As for the rabbits, I actually have a small Australian shepherd that runs through my lawn chasing the wallabies that meander by, I've been meaning to trap it and humanely slaughter it, the blue coat would make a great gift! And if the owner comes by looking for Bella, I could trap him and humanely slaughter him too. He looks a bit simple, so it seems ethical to me? He'd make good compost, that's for true.

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  • No, but its responsible for ~40% of the entire world's global greenhouse gas emissions. If you're at all left wing, you should put your money where your mouth is and commit to a diet that aligns with literally all of your beliefs.

    But hey I'm just Three Ducks, relatively removed from the risk of meat eaters, in the US at least 🦆

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  • You should try dog if you get the chance, Elwood dog farm has a low impact factory farm where you can buy Labrador cuts and some gamier breeds if they're in stock.

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  • The toasty warm planet thanks your contributions. Especially those dying from extreme weather events!

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  • You did say "I love meat, let me assure you". That's pretty proud.

    Firstly, other moral goods don't rebuff moral wrongs. Owning solar panels doesn't mean it's morally okay to kill animals for your tastebuds.

    "I don't think me eating less meat will have much effect". I mean, if everyone thought like you, global warming might happen. If everyone thought like vegans, (and went vegan today) we'd literally solve the climate crisis. Animal agriculture accounts for 40-60% of total emissions.

    How can you be concerned about growing meat consumption in other countries? "Gee I sure hope people don't act like me, that'd be concerning!". Rules for thee.

    That's not to mention the antibiotic crisis where treatment resistant bacteria are developing in animals due to overuse in livestock. Or the development of animal flus like birdflu, corona virus, swine flu, ebola etc etc, which emerge from consuming animals.

    You're doing so much good, why not do the little extra step of going vegan? It's so easy nowadays. Good for you, good for the planet, good for the animals. There's no practical downside?

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  • No more danger than eating puffer fish. Avoid the brain and spinal tissue, you avoid the risk of a prison disease. Besides, if we're talking about dangers to our health, veganism is quantifiably healthier and correlated with longevity.

    And what do you mean "non-pet" dogs? Why wouldn't you want to eat your pets? They live a much happier life before their slaughter, and it's easier to manage the texture of their meat when they're live-in stock.

    You haven't thought this through much, huh?

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  • Going vegan is such a money-where-your-mouth-is move. If you're left enough to know the damage meat eating causes, yet you still eat meat, how are you better than the industries you call out?

    So much right wing bullshit is based on greed, yet left wing meat eaters can't make the single most significant consumer change because "bacon too yummy lol".

    All these great left wing youtubers, as soon as I see they're not vegan my respect drops in half.

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  • You should try human flesh. There are some countries that humanely kill unadoptable children, their flesh is subjectively delicious, it's an undebatable truth! And if that's not to your liking, Elwood Dog Farm humanely slaughters all numbers of dogs for your gourmet pleasures. Debunk that, vegans!