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  • I really hate you people for spewing your propaganda like that.

    1. The "worse" part implies the democrats didn't give Israel everything it ever wanted which is in itself outright propaganda.
    2. I don't know why Ukraine is portrayed like Palestine. Where are they getting ethnically cleansed that I missed? Where is this coming from? Show some respect to the worst humanitarian crisis of the 21st century for the love of god
    3. At how many atrocious policies do you say enough? At how many rollbacks from republicans that the democrats do nothing about do you say enough? At how many genocides do you say enough? If the democrats committed a second one? Trump would commit more you say. A third one? Trump would commit more. A fourth? A fifth? At what point do you draw the line?

    https://medium.com/@ashwinjitsingh/the-trolly-problem-utilitarianism-vs-deontology-bd624a8e321e

    "If one were to take a utilitarian standpoint, the means are justified by the end, which from a utilitarianist perspective, is the maximization of benefit. Hence, for a utilitarianist, whatever option guarantees the outcome of the maximum benefit is what is moral. Therefore, in the trolly case, a follower of classical utilitarianism would say that it is morally permissible to sacrifice 1 to save 5.

    The deontological perspective in contrast, advocates for the means justifying the end. This, for a deontologist, the morality of the action should be based on whether the action itself is right or wrong under a series of rules, rather than being based on the consequence. In this light, a follower of deontologism would argue that it is morally impermissible to sacrifice one to save five because making the choice of having to kill someone is inherently wrong."

  • Someone should make a phase diagram as well. With temperatures on the Y axis and percentage of being gay or straight on the X axis. Like we do fora alloys

  • Being born wealthy isn't really optional. It's actually necessary and a big reason why this system is so absolutely terrible, because the American dream is a capitalist myth to manipulate the masses.

    The exceptions are not always exceptions, like the apartheid boy Elon and the 1 in a million that actually is an exception is drilled into our brains by the media like how gambling companies make ads about the people that win the lottery.

  • Because it's a far right party. Trump happens to be more far right, but that doesn't change that fact. I'm not voting for far right, neoliberal, genocidal freaks.

    At how many genocides do you draw the line? If the democrats committed a second one along with the Palestinian genocide they are committing right now? You'd again say trump would be worse, vote for Harris. If they committed three? Four? No matter what they do, Trump would do worse, so again you'd tell us to vote for Harris.

    I draw the line at a genocide and at everything this neoliberal party stands for. I am not giving that party my approval because it is going in the exact opposite direction of what I stand for. At some point, the lesser evil is too evil.

  • I genuinely don't understand how uranium can exist a priori in this argument but lead not? I might be missing something.

  • It's so funny that you think the democrats aren't the genocidal maniacs that have unconditionally supported and armed Israel. It doesn't get much worse than this, Israel has got literally everything it has asked for lmao. The problem is you thinking they are in any way holding back, but go off. As Joe said, no president has supported Israel as much as I did.

    Tell us how not so evil the democrats, which are funded by the military industrial complex more than the republicans, are. Tell us how they work for our interests, not the oligarchs, please.

    I've said this a million times, if the two candidates were Hitler and Hitler again, but he funded a little bit more the healthcare system who would you vote for? None is the answer. When the dilemma consists of ideologies and political/social trajectories that are 100% opposite to your ideal ones, the lesser evil doesn't exist.

    Don't blame the dead on the people who have done more than the 99% for the cause, I can't take you seriously that way. You can blame the oligarchs and the fascists/liberals who don't care.

  • So dnc candidates are not puppets, got it. Also the comment was made taking the survey findings for granted, so no spoiler candidates for you people, but you didn't see that either.

    I saw everything I needed when you moved right past the genocide part though, I don't expect someone like you to understand regardless.

  • I'm not voting for the "lesser evil" when the "lesser evil" commits a genocide. There is no dilemma when we are counting genocides. When do you start realising that both are serving the 1% interests? When does this end - if the dems commit 3 genocides and the republicans 4? If the dems commit 10 and the republicans 11? The red line is long crossed.

    Don't tell us what to do lmfao.

  • Why? What's the excuse this time? You guys are too comfortable supporting genocide perpetrators

  • What exactly did they say that made you draw this conclusion? I'm so curious

  • Ukrainian genocide? Where is this even coming from?

    Regardless, your comment reveals the answer to your dilemma. If the question is how many genocides/oppressions you are willing to put up with, then it's a system worth abolishing. If one party commits 4 genocides and the other 5, then would you choose the one committing 4? There is necessarily a point where both parties are doing so badly, they're indistinguishable and they are both crossing the red lines, that applies for everyone of us, no exceptions. So the question then remains, where do you draw the line for this?

    Another example I usually give for this is: one party being Hitler and the other being Hitler but he is giving a little bit more money to the healthcare system. Would you vote for Hitler? No, so you have to draw the line somewhere. We draw it at a genocide(and at numerous more issues which are for another discussion)

  • I know you'd wish that, but unfortunately genocide is too much for me and the least evil argument doesn't hold up anymore. There are red lines and dnc has absolutely crossed them. I'm not expecting you to understand, you clearly don't care enough about the genocide.

  • I wouldn't know since I am not a republican. I'm just absolutely not ok with the Palestinian genocide, but you care so little that you only seen republicans, regardless if the critique comes from the right or from the left. You'd wish you could make me look like a republican.

  • Rather unfortunate for you that the folks complaining about dnc being 100% complicit and funding the genocide, have never ever claimed that Trump is the better choice.

    Also I love the genocide in quotes, really says all you need to know

  • Pretty unfortunate for you that there's free speech then huh? Not letting you spew your dnc propaganda undisturbed

  • "brought unprecedented war to Gaza"???

    Last time I checked, that's Israel's business. Yk turning Gaza into an open air prison, oppressing, stealing the land of the Palestinians, murdering them and torturing them, ethnically cleansing them...?

    As much as you'd love to tarnish Palestinians liberation struggle, facts don't really allow that. You're just another genocide apologist

  • These mfs will use literally anything except for open source, decentralised social meda