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plinky [he/him]

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  • No, if they use their own kids they are petty bourgeoisie, I have slightly elaborated in another answer, 19th century family hits different. But anyway, same also kinda works in 21st century, business run by husband and wife, if they don’t have completely separate financial accounts where one person determines price of labor of another, they are still petit bourgeoisie as a family unit. And yes, as soon as they hire someone outside, they transition into bourgeoisie.

    If one where to make finer distinctions, think of it more like a star scale with three prongs, there three axis, exploited, owning their own means of production and exploits others (owning others’ means of production). So a worker maintains same scale of being exploited, while their 401k slowly grows their prong of owning others means of production. Meanwhile petit bourgeois sits firmly on 0 on being exploited, but also until success 0 on exploits others. While haute bourgeois sits firmly on exploits others and doing jack shit, so 0 on both, unless they also doing some failson work. They could also be loaded doctor who is exploited by medical system, but at the same time their pay scale rapidly brings them closer to bourgeoisie, while they are being exploited for 1/3 of their life, they are exploiting back via diffuse capital ownership, but that’s neither here nor there

  • There is a difference between owning your shop and having family work there, and owning a store where people work for money, for one success of the store means direct results for petit bourgeoisie, while not so much for owned store with strangers. For two, familial relations in 19th century where wife and kids are property of the man, in a sense. Unless you want to go full tilt into unquantifiable reproductive labor being unfairly compensated by a husband because he doesn’t directly pay his wife, and thus all man are bourgeoisie before 20th century, you have to treat family as a unit and avoid those questions and deal with economic transactions.

    For petit bourgeoisie their labor being valorized (turned into money) is very direct relationship, they work “better” they get exactly proportional “better” compensation, there is no boss (aside from society/market), which grades them on some incomprehensible metrics. They are a servant of market conditions, their work easily wiped out by haute bourgeoisie (say, walmart) and workers getting paid more than them (say google code monkey) brings burning hatred in them, thus they hate and envy the former, and disregard and hate for the latter. If you pay attention, frequently more precise marxists would say petit bourgeois morality to cast labor aristocracy into them, as the middle class is composed of those two types, but they are not petit bourgeois, they just share same fears and striving, even if they are different in relationships of production

    You can make vague case that labor aristocracy possesses some kind of inbuilt labor valorizer in their resume/certificates/skillsets, and that’s what makes them closer to morality of petit bourgeois as owning their own means of production (exotic skills which they own), but eh

  • Podcaster owns their means of production, thus they are petit bourgeoisie. Person hiring labor to produce commodity is bourgeoisie, person having to sell their labor is proletariat. Police and criminals are lumpenproletariat.

    Petit bourgeoisie are characterized by owning their means of production, i don’t know how else to explain this. If i have a gold mine where i go to mine gold, im petit bourgeoisie until i hire worker to do so, wherein I transmute myself into bourgeoisie. Just same if i paint art or write books or make podcasts. Worker who isn’t exploited doesn’t sell their labor, they sell commodity, they are two in one (both bourgeoisie and laborer), but because of their historical inclinations they have been cast into bourgeoisie bucket, you can lead a crusade to rename them l’ouvrier emancipe if you like

  • Aside from everything, lying on internet forms is valuable initial response, ask under first last name hifedslooking @subpoenaeddocuments,

  • Exactly lmao, you are confusing them. Small shopkeeper owns a shop in 19th century, employs his kids and owns means of production, namely the shop. Same for artisanal crafts. Owning a chain of restaurants and “working” as a manager is distinct from owning one small restaurant where you cook with your wife. Same as artist who can afford to fly solo - they are definitionally petit bourgeois

  • Varn vlog, despite very acerbic personality, has a lot of bangers (if you want to avoid current discussions completely, that’s more for interviews) and while suffering from same super structural disease of western marxists (you more likely hear about why heidegger is a dipshit than why cobalt prices margins has to stay low, but the scope is so big of western philosophy shenanigans, there is always something interesting). (well, there is some distaste to ml-s, china and (american) anarchists, but that’s whatever, one has to hear comradely critique)

    And alpha2omega, best boy (if misguided) about cybernetics in podcast form

  • The vibe i got is she has ukrainian/polish/baltic handler and/or just huffs guardian every hour, that’s the scope of the takes.

  • Yes it does, you don’t write such a law in a month, and get it supported by your party unless it was prepared beforehand. I’m not saying it was inside job as in they did themselves, it was inside acquiescence.

    To me the curious question is it no-choice betrayal and they continue on the downlow communities movement, or will they dismantle them to get their kids into boards of directors, so betrayal of opportunity

  • No, that’s small business owners, petit bourgeoisie are owning their own means of production, shopkeepers of 19th century and the like

  • since when? that's what makes them petit bougie in first place

  • i was making a joke, dunno. podcasters are petit bougie, and the longer patreon goes on, the more obvious it corrupts them

  • riddle me this, how would it look differently if it definitely was? i mean, ramming oil privatization, releasing the political prisoners (tm), accepting cia director and ambassador of great satan. obviously without classified documents, we only get snippets and interviews, but they all (words by usa & deeds by delcy) paint same coherent picture, for me at least.

    last couple of years definitely shed some feely-based blinders for me, if you have porky elite in your country, you won't show any solidarity against great satan and you can get bought out at any point if you are under sanctinos, as your cheap shitty assets under auspices of usa empire become very profitable assets, ussr playbook basically.

    (i can even make a falsifiable prediction, if there is a daring raid and series of strikes inside iran, where khomenei and some irgc personnel are disabled, they enter some negotiations with end result being same oil privatization, removal of sanctions and abandoning their allies, that is what happened)

  • petit bougie mentality from london dweller - no, that can't be.

  • it's not even socialist as such, they just don't have strong moral convictions. some liberals are also horrified at entity behavior, some (best) of them even quit their jobs over it (say in state department) around 10 people in 12000 department or some numbers around that, it's basically consistent number that people with morals are less than 1% of people (i would like to say it's uniquely seppos, but same is true in europe and middle east and asia), we have several representative samples across populations when push comes to shove they all vote/continue to work for/shop at/entertain for better burgers. which means socialist should brings morals by backdoor of treats, which would require extraordinary individual/organizational duality.

  • encouraging stochastic anti-pedo rightwingers on twitter is a funny and worthwhile pursuit, of course it doesn't matter in some sense. Squeaky clean elites would do exact same shit to people and countries

    *you can also preface any liberal talking point (say by summers or british labor or macron) by proximity to pedos, which also wastes their brain cells

  • i feel like amerikkka got green light from someone in irgc, same as venezuela, it seems very strange otherwise to bring delta forces to azerbaijan or wherever.

  • As i said, power hungry poops, the power comes first and above all, and thus indicates the person is cooptable and not a threat, in a larger sense. Your either immediately quit or become pelocia, or willing to be such a nuisance to be 1term representative, or you get starry eyed about proximity to power as to take pictures with genocide joe. You don’t have any power, but you think you do, and do this work for 30 years

  • Did clinton stop entryism into democratic party? Treatlerism will prevail

    You can observe as a proximate: 0 quits over genocide, even rashida still changes them from inside, they, at the end of the day, are power hungry poops, who will not lose power on principle or risk

  • the day irish became white, they embraced genocide of colonized

  • Chapotraphouse @hexbear.net

    learn2fed watch

  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    Be vox@be pro-piracy

  • History @hexbear.net

    Average cia-op involves losing nuclear devices

  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    Guardian, when there are resources to be pillaged: this is not about resources

  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    3 seppos down

  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    And then i said: i never understood dialectics

  • canada @hexbear.net

    Government retreats on Victims of Communism memorial names in aftermath of Nazi controversy

    ottawacitizen.com /public-service/defence-watch/victims-of-communism-memorial-names-nazis
  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    Yep, the boy gone, the dem is here to stay

  • politics @hexbear.net

    Interview from Underground with Liberated Filton 24 Prisoner Sean “Shibby” Middlebrough

    calla.substack.com /p/shibby-interview
  • electoralism @hexbear.net

    Average seppo berniecrat

  • news @hexbear.net

    Imperial grindset - 900 billion to military

  • América Latina & Caribe @hexbear.net

    Play neolib games, win reactionary prises

  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    Yearning for the mines is cultivated at young age 😅

  • europe @hexbear.net

    Another day, another british perfidity

  • europe @hexbear.net

    German "left" moment

  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    Classic new york crimes moment

  • podcasts @hexbear.net

    Citations Needed: Ep 232: US Meddling, the Limits of 'Agency' Discourse and How Media Chooses Which 'Voices' To Center (w. W. Bevins)

    citationsneeded.libsyn.com /ep-232-us-meddling-the-limits-of-agency-discourse-and-how-media-chooses-which-voices-to-center
  • Chapotraphouse @hexbear.net

    2025 Gift list from the Farms of Palestine

    lamaobeid.substack.com /p/2025-gift-list-from-the-farms-of
  • videos @hexbear.net

    I just think this shot is very neat

    streamable.com /npsdvd
  • Slop. @hexbear.net

    Perfect business plan