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  • Ireland women's basketball team refuse to shake hands with Israel

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  • yeah, I think it is strangely twisted. It has nothing to do with the accusation of anti-semitism, it is just israel they don't like. They never wanted to shake the hands of the israeli team, and just used the player's comments as a reason.

  • Ireland women's basketball team refuse to shake hands with Israel

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  • I don't. If you click on "Jews" on the wikipedia it says right in the beginning:

    Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים‎, ISO 259-2: Yehudim, Israeli pronunciation: [jehuˈdim]) or Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group[12] and nation[13][14][15][16][17]

    The jewish are a people. Many of them aren't even religious. Antisemitism created israel. and not the other way around.

    Here another wikipedia article on distinguishing antisemitism and criticism of Israel.

  • Ireland women's basketball team refuse to shake hands with Israel

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  • and the Israeli pre-emptively insulted the Irish basketball association

    All I can find is that one team member called the irish team 'quite antisemitic'. I just don't see why that would be so upsetting. If it is unfounded, move on, don't make a big deal out of it. For some reason, being accused of antisemitism is a bigger of a deal than actually being antisemitic. And that is the reason why I am confused about it. One Israeli player says the irish team is antisemitic, the irish team gets angry and refuses to shake hands. Alright. But what is the context here? what exactly are the reasons why the israeli player made these accusations? And why does nobody care about the context? Everyone already decided whether the accusations are unfounded or not, without even knowing anything about the context. Imagine someone being accused of racism without being given any sort of context. And everyone already has an opinion whether the accusation is unfounded or not. It's just weird.

  • Ireland women's basketball team refuse to shake hands with Israel

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  • The 3 D's are a useful tool to tell apart antisemitism and valid criticism.

  • Ireland women's basketball team refuse to shake hands with Israel

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  • that's what's odd about it. The article says the reason the team didn't shake hands was because of 'wholly inaccurate accusations of antisemitism'. So does that mean they would have shaken hands if one of the israeli team members had not made that accusation? Or were they just looking for a reason? This is what seems odd to me. If we imagine Ireland playing against an african nation that is also torn by war and conflict. If one of their team members accused the irish team of racism, and as a consequence, the entire irish team refuses to shake hands with the African team because they are so offended by these accusations. That would be really weird. That's why I asked for more context.

    There is a difference between the country and the religion and antisemitism is used for the religion alone.

    That is incorrect. Anti-Judaism is the (much older) component of antisemitism that is used for religion alone. While it is wrong to say that any criticism against israel is antisemitic, it is equally wrong to say that criticizing Israel is never antisemitic. in some cases it is. Sadly many people refuse to have this discussion. Israel exists because of antisemitism, not the other way around.

  • Ireland women's basketball team refuse to shake hands with Israel

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  • how am I supposed to understand this, what is the context here?

    An Israeli player said "It's known that they are quite anti-semitic" and the entire irish team felt so offended by that that they decided not to shake the hands of the israeli team? To show them how unfounded the allegations are?

    What are the details here? the article doesn't really say much

  • What are some must have Linux compatible VSTs?

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  • I love Vital (Vitalium) and Zyn-Fusion. Surge and Odin are great too. all of them are open source and work great with bitwig.

  • Hamas releases video of three Israeli hostages saying they'll learn 'fate' on Monday

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  • Furthermore plenty of witness testimonies from israelis that were that say that the IDF tanks shot children in kubbutzes.

    There is no reputable source backing this up. It is disinformation.

  • Hamas releases video of three Israeli hostages saying they'll learn 'fate' on Monday

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  • Blocked.

    good! reporting helps, too.

  • Hamas releases video of three Israeli hostages saying they'll learn 'fate' on Monday

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  • A few people commit crimes

    They murdered 1200 people.

    and most kids were killed by israeli tanks

    disinformation. debunked here and here.

  • Hamas releases video of three Israeli hostages saying they'll learn 'fate' on Monday

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  • yet again, the grayzone is not a reputable source. Also, just because there is some incorrect information about the october 7 attacks, it doesn't invalidate widely documented, independently verified evidence of the crimes commited.

    Do read the rest of the article it completely demolishes that rape IDF fanfic.

    There Was No Cover-Up of Hamas’s Sexual Violence on October 7 .

    You are literally backing rapists who documented their own crimes. It's beyond disgusting if you ask me.

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  • Your claims that there are evidence is false because there is none.

    I literally provide resources of evidence and all you say there is "none"??

    give me evidence backed by multiple, independent sources. Then I have a look. Otherwise this is nothing but misinformation.

  • Germany, which committed genocide in Namibia, blasted for defending Israel by African nation - UPI.com

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  • Ja, das Podcast hat sehr gut getan. Traurig, dass solchen Ansichten so wenig Aufmerksamkeit gegeben wird

  • Germany, which committed genocide in Namibia, blasted for defending Israel by African nation - UPI.com

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  • The claim that anti-semitism is hidden under anti-zionism

    both is true: Anti-semitism under the pretext of anti-zionism and legitimate critizism labeled as anti-semitism. Jewish people are instrumentalized by both supporters of the Israeli governent and anti-zionists.

    but it is impossible to have a proper debate about it and differentiate these two in Germany

    not impossible, but people don't pay attention to those who have nuance opinions. If you speak German, a good example would be this podcast by Jung und Naiv.

    By blaming all anti-zionist positions to be anti-semitic, it also creates a reaction of defiance

    I agree with that. In the same way, denying that anti-zionism and anti-semitism interconnected is equally unhelpful

  • Germany, which committed genocide in Namibia, blasted for defending Israel by African nation - UPI.com

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  • anti-semitism nowadays is usually expressed throught the pretext of "anti-zionism". While I agree German authorities didn't do a good job at managing the protetsts, there is no denial that some prostestors have expressed anti-semitic ideas during some protests

  • Hamas releases video of three Israeli hostages saying they'll learn 'fate' on Monday

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  • From this source:

    Many of the Israeli hostages, according to interviews with family members, returned “malnourished, infested with lice, ill, injured and deeply traumatized,” the Times also reported.

    Also important to note, it is likely that some hostages are treated under "acceptable" conditions for propaganda purposes. Also, many hostages' family members were murdered on october 7. So that unto itself very much contradicts with the absurd claim that they were "treated well".

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  • The “fact check site” links to the now completely debunked New York Times article as “evidence” for the rapes. You are arguring against a large amount of evidence here that has been verified independently multiple times. Hamas murdered children, and they also raped women.

    I probably won't convince you, but for the people who care about truth: "The grayzone" you're linking here is everything but a reputable news source.

    From the wikipedia article:

    The Grayzone has been criticized for defending authoritarian regimes.[4][20][34][40][61] In Reorienting Hong Kong’s Resistance: Leftism, Decoloniality, and Internationalism, The Grayzone was described as "known for misleading reporting in the service of authoritarian states".[25] Nerma Jelacic, writing in the Index on Censorship, described The Grayzone as "a Kremlin-connected online outlet that pushes pro-Russian conspiracy theories and genocide denial."[62] In 2019, The Grayzone had claimed the Commission for International Justice and Accountability, of which Jelacic is a director, collaborated with ISIS and Jabhat al-Nusra affiliates.[62]

    You spread disinformation. You're not helping anyone by doing that. Just stop, okay?

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  • Two corrections: On October 7, infants have been executed. While they weren't beheaded, they were still murdered. And sexual assault by Hamas fighters has been widely documented and proven.

    These things did happen. You're not helping anyone by hiding things that are also true.

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  • that “anti-semitism” dog-whistle is just pure racism

    ahh alright, calling out anti-semitism is racist now? You're watering down the definition of both of these issues. Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is antisemitic. That's not up to debate for me.

    (which only a racist would think), hence Israel represents all of them, hence criticism of Israel is anti-semitism.

    okay, typical Motte-and-bailey. you compared Israel to Nazi Germany. I called you out on that. Moreover, I called Netanyahu "full of shit" and said "IDF is committing reprehensible war crimes". I'm criticizing Israel. Doesn't make me an Anti-Semite. This kind of stuff always happens. "Israel is like Nazi Germany!!1" (Motte) and "Oh I'm just criticizing Israel" (Bailey)

    but it even has already exceed the rate of killing of civilians of pretty much everybody but the Nazis

    You're making this up. Please have at least the decency and give me sources.

    but in terms of the rate of civilian deaths it certainly has already exceeded everything else but the actual Holocaust

    The hamas killed 1200 people in a single say. that would be 108000 in 90 day, exceeding the "rate of civilian deaths" of the IDF bombing. Is this a shitty argument? yes, it is awful, and so is yours. It is a fucking tragedy and it needs to end. But why do you use these numbers to desperately frame Israel as Nazis?

    Important to note: between May and July 1944, the Nazis killed over 400 000 Hungarian Jews in Auschwitz.

    Again: Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is detached from reality, and antisemitic. You are not helping anyone by doubling down on claiming it is.

    Think a second about those who are actually affected by the conflict, who understand how complex and twisted it is and who genuinely look for ways to find peace. People who oppose the war, the occupation, Netanyahu's government, Hamas. These people are drowned out by westeners entirely unaffected by the conflict, claiming to know better what is going on, and resort to simplistic, tribalistic and hateful language.