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  • Apparently the dump doesn't include media, though there's ongoing discussion within wikimedia about changing that. It also seems likely to me that AI scrapers don't care about externalizing costs onto others if it might mean a competitive advantage (e.g. most recent data, not having to spend time and resources developing dedicated ingestion systems for specific sites).

    I want to stress this: it's not that "tech bros" are just stupid—even though a lot of them are revoltingly unappreciative of the giants whose sholders they stand on—it's that they don't care.

  • No one who uses Mozilla software wants more cloud shit or online services from Mozilla.

    I don't think that's unanimous. I'd like to use Firefox Relay, myself, and I'm willing to give thundermail a chance.

    Used to think I'd go full Proton eventually, but leaning more towards a diverse set of service providers, nowadays. It's also my hope that these services allow Mozilla to depend less on companies like Google, and more on the users they ought to serve, which would be healthier for the org and better for users.

  • Yes, sort of. Thundermail addresses, apparently, or bring your own. From the linked article you're commenting on:

    Users can send and receive email using new Thundermail accounts they sign up for. The service will also allow using your own custom domain (e.g. your.name@yourdomain.com).

  • I should donate again. As someone who still depends on gmail, I keep forgetting how annoying it was to get ads every time I refreshed my inbox, before I switched to their app. Glad things seem to be working out.

  • If they're user funded, their incentives are fundamentally different from Google's. Even thinking as a business, it makes no sense to enshittify the way Google does. It's a different choice, even if it's not the choice you wanted.

  • They said it will be opt-in and are trying to make it local-first. Their provider(?) apparently allows fallback to nvidia cloud compute when the hardware can't handle it.

    I'm not using AI to write my fucking emails, regardless. Just wanted to let people know.

    p.s. Sorry, I'm dumb, skipped over quote in parent comment. Point is, there's more to the service than optional AI bullshit, and you shouldn't have to disable it.

  • I've seen news that tumblr has changed/is changing, and they're even implementing some form of activitypub (Fediverse) integration. I don't have stakes here, just curious: does that change your position any, as an ex-user now on fedi?

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  • Might be nicer if they just didn't care.

    Check the comment section for the video version of this article by Niccolò, or the comment section of the post on r/browsers, or the replies whenever these issues are mentioned on Twitter, and so on, and you'll find a bunch of brave people saying stuff like:

    you unintentionally just made me like brave over firefox. now i can switch to a chromium based browser and not even feel bad about it

    Yes i am installing Brave after this advertisment!

    Thanks to this video I deleted Brave then redownloaded it

    These were taken directly from the video. They're on the mild side. Throw in also some "stop inserting politics (other than mine) into tech" comments, and a few homophobes not even trying to hide it. Rather than not caring, many of them like it a lot, especially the right-wing politics.

    I don't think every Brave user is a cunt, but fucking hell, are loud cunts seemingly attracted to Brave.

    To folks bothered by this: know that the lead developer of Ladybird is a big fan of Brendan Eich.

  • I don't think this thread is helping.

  • In fairness, these projects have different objectives. Ladybird aims to be a full browser, Servo doesn't.

    Ladybird is a brand-new browser & web engine ...

    Servo is a web browser rendering engine ...

    There is Verso, which aims to build a browser on Servo, but it's still very young (though, I suppose that applies to LB as well). Ideally, I'd like to see all these projects grow into complete solutions. I think that'd be healthier for the internet. It's just really difficult to support Ladybird with Andreas as he's acting right now.

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  • I think there was a similar idea in the USA with the COPIED Act, but I haven't heard about it since.

  • This to me more sounds like I have made up my mind to not like this guy or his product and nothing will change this.

    That's a really unfair reading of the situation. People aren't obligated to listen to us and change their minds. As long as they're willing, sure, do your best, but no means no. Vlad seemingly doesn't understand no. That's not good, and added to their previous insights, I can understand why the author wouldn't want to enter a call with a such a person.

    most of the issues being discussed are nit pickings at details and fights on being right or wrong on things that really don't matter

    It might help if you elaborate, but right now I can't agree. For example, Vlad's views on privacy and biases are kind of wild (no suicide hotlines numbers because they're biased but also put LLMs everywhere) and that matters if you're going to use his product to search information online (and possibly his e-mail service as well).

  • Disappointing and unsurprising. He and Bryan are very similar, complaining that "social justice warriors" are "ruining open source" whenever they see pushback against shitty actions, then getting right back to doing way worse.

  • I don't see how your comment responds in any way to the criticism presented.

    this comes up every time Kagi gets mentioned anywhere.

    Because it's relevant. Should I never share it because you've already seen it? What about those who haven't? I haven't seen Kagi properly address these issues. So I asked about newer developments I might've missed. No one volunteered any yet.

    Someone is personally hurt by the CEO and is now in a crusade to spread bad karma about them.

    The author clearly explains how they arrived at their stance, and it wasn't just "hurt feelings." I'm not claiming this was what you intended, but it feels like you're trying to dramatize the criticism and downplay the issues rather than address them.

    I also don't see the crusade thing. They wrote down their thoughts, then others found and shared them. They're not the ones posting in ycombinator, or here. It's people like me, unaffiliated with them. We just think more people should know.

    You finished saying you liked Kagi and think it's good. There's nothing wrong with that, but I don't see how it helps here, either. I used Kagi for a short while and liked having more control over results, but... the issues remain. It's beside the point.

  • An article about Kagi's leadership, uncontroversially titled "Why I lost faith in Kagi." If anyone has updates to add here, good or bad, I'd appreciate it.

    Between the absolute blase attitude towards privacy, the 100% dedication to AI being the future of search, and the completely misguided use of the company's limited funds, I honestly can't see Kagi as something I could ever recommend to people.

    ...and I'm surprised this quote doesn't mention the CEO, considering what the blog post has to say about him.

  • Whenever I post such things, I get a small wave of displeased people. Rarely get thanks, though. Even if it takes a bit of effort, and I inevitably find yet more stuff. That's ok, praise obviously isn't the point.

    But it demoralized me a little, how there's always downplaying. It's never enough. I can say Brendan Eich is homophobic, ideally you shouldn't support him, and someone will tell me he invented javascript, and that makes it ok (my entire point is thus null, I am overreacting).

    Your thanks encourage me to uselessly annoy and present no arguments a bit longer. Thank you.

  • Downvoted for stating a relevant, verifiable fact. Incredible.

    we’ve created the Ladybird Browser Initiative , a US 501(c)(3)

    The inaugural board of directors:

    • Andreas Kling (President)
  • I'm a bit hesitant to comment further because this thread is already quite long, but assuming it's a genuine question I can send a DM and we can talk there, if you want?

  • Nooo... I haven't finished it yet, I thought I'd be able to do so on Linux :'^(

    We're only talking about the original at least, right?