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  • Not a psyop, and honestly I'm not even sure it's people being particularly stupid. Some of these people have very elaborate reasoning leading them to this wrong behavior which is only subtly wrong. I am trying to have faith in people who generally agree with me. But it is disheartening to see so many of the divisive opinions here. It is also enlightening as to why the left intrinsically has more difficulty organizing than the right. Very tragic and frustrating

  • They're being sarcastic

  • I feel that if I made a list of the top 2000 most difficult to forget people, we would find that their average niceness is below that of a typical person tbh

  • The best thing is that even if the tax was paid by the exporter they would just raise the price of their product accordingly for the import region lol

  • No, I definitely think the disinformation from my government is disinformation. I also don't think satire is misinformation - but I do think that people mistaking satire for true news creates misinformation in the minds of those mistaken people. I mean, they quite literally believe in information that is not true. If that's not being misinformed, what is?

    I'm not even blaming the satire agency, I think satire is great. It's not The Beaverton's fault that this was posted somewhere where people would take it seriously. Its the fault of the OP, and the fault of the commenters for not reading the article or fact-checking things. But that doesn't change the fact that anyone who thinks this is real news is by definition misinformed, and the presence of this post in the context of this community is by definition creating misinformation.

    I don't even know why you assumed I don't think the government disinformation is disinformation?

  • What is the point behind your cryptic tallying of the number of people your post has misinformed?

  • Yes I agree, it's much harder to tell the two apart these days, which is horrible. All the more reason why it's important to delineate them on sites like Lemmy. I mean, I get that it kind of ruins the joke to put [satire] in brackets at the end of the article title. But it's better than creating misinformation

  • It's clearly not, because the majority of commenters are taking it seriously, thus making this effectively misinformation. It's sad that the title is believable as real news, but unfortunately it is.

  • Given the amount of people who are interpreting this as actual news, I feel that satire should be clearly labelled as such in the title. It's embarrassing to have people going around saying "did you hear Patel said..." And then when people check it it's literally a joke.

  • Yes, that's true. It was definitely not my intent to imply that such people are not professionals. They do seem to be a very small part of the overall software developer world. To me it seems like 90% of devs are doing full stack UI, API, DB type stuff. But it probably seems the other way to people doing the other things.

  • Oh yes, I definitely agree with this. If you NEED an IDE that's certainly not a good sign no matter what you're working in. Although I can see in certain codebases with huge amounts of macros, functions, weird or inconsistent syntax, that an IDE might be basically necessary to be productive. But for sure agreed that I could do my job just via a text editor if I had to. Sure wouldn't enjoy it though 😅

  • I admit I haven't known any Unix hackers! I guess my type of work had me assuming they would still prefer an IDE. What is it about this kind of development that makes you prefer text editors, if you don't mind my asking?

  • Still super cool to hear about your workflow. Makes me wish I had an excuse to spend time experimenting with that stuff.

  • Everyone has given many good and enlightening responses but picking yours to put the majority of my thoughts in. Yes, for sure I can see there being more specialized disciplines that don't make much use of IDE's. I shouldn't have made the same mistake as the meme! Not to sound like an LLM but "you're absolutely right!" lol. I certainly have my niche and I can see people spending their whole career in a niche where IDEs are superfluous. I like your balanced take on it.

  • The Minecraft world editor? They use that for developing non-Minecraft world software? That's pretty fascinating. What sort of things do they develop with it?

  • Hey, I was explicitly being open to being wrong and acknowledging that I may simply not have encountered those kinds of professionals. I don't even think I was being hostile, only saying that from my perspective the idea of this meme is a misunderstanding propagated by people with less experience.

    But rather than present any evidence, even anecdotal, taking it personally (even as a joke) serves only to publicly make me look more correct 🤷

  • I have never seen or known a serious professional who preferred to work outside of a full featured IDE. All the most skilled and highest paid developers I've ever known were more adamant about using the IDE when compared to the less skilled developers who preferred to do things more via command line and text editors. Just my experience. I often suspect that this meme is shared and liked by people who aren't really professionals. Perhaps I just haven't encountered them yet.

    Edit: It seems I indeed haven't encountered them! Although I do stand by my original point to the extent that it seems there are disciplines where IDEs are best and disciplines where they aren't. I enjoyed reading everyone's responses and thinking about areas of software that I don't usually think about. It's given me lots to look into. Thanks everyone who responded nicely! Also, I definitely did not mean to imply that specialists working without IDEs are amateurs or anything like that! Much respect to everyone out there making software.

  • They gave the US sovereignty of parts of Greenland? I tried searching for news on this but couldn't find anything. What are you referring to?

  • Anyone who thinks these soldiers will do anything other than exactly what they're ordered is thinking more than a little wishfully