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irmoz

@ irmoz @lemmy.world

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  • This wasn't you. Like I said. You have jumped in and added nothing of value to the conversation.

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  • Yes, I am standing up for OP. I am standing against the "it's just marketing" idea. The "they should stop" idea was uttered by you, not by OP. You can hate something without demanding for it to stop: I hate soap operas, but don't demand they stop. I hate Tesla, but don't demand they should shut down.

    If I have misinterpreted OP, then quote where they clearly and unequivocally demanded for it to stop, or where they stated that it was more than just marketing.

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  • There's no way you actually believe I'm a bot. You're just running away from the conversation.

    Now, look:

    THIS is the comment I responded to. Observe how it is entirely unadorned by YOUR username. This is the comment I took issue with. You came after. The actual issue with what you said was that you entirely ignored the point of the OP, and what I said, to support the "it's just marketing" idea, which belittles OP's pain.

    OP just wanted to vent, not make suggestions for corporations.

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  • False comparison, terrible argument. People also legalise cars and build roads. Try again: why would you prefer fewer people to fewer cars?

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  • Stop saying that!!! I'm not a fucking bot!! I am a human being with thoughts and feelings and autism, and i am far too fucking sick of being called a robot my entire fucking life. I deserve respect and dignity, not to be treated like a defective toaster.

    I will not be bullied for standing up for another person. Never. I will not back down just because you tried to throw your weight around and oppress me.

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  • Why do you need to believe that? Can't you comprehend that I might actually have a point?

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  • Then it should be every ten minutes instead of half hour...

    Idk what to tell you, man, but "my local public transport isn't effective" is an argument against ineffective public transport, not an argument against the general concept

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  • Yeah sure, saying "I hate this" is clearly an endorsement that it should continue to happen.

    Did I say that? No.

    Stop playing fucking games.

    It is neither an endorsement for it to continue, nor is it a demand for it to stop.

    It is "i hate it". It is a statement of feeling.

    Learn the difference between is and ought. Stop mistaking your next thought for their next statement.

    Yes, hating something generally means you want it to stop. But you cannot be quoted as asking for it to stop until you actually say so.

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  • I never said any single thing about YOUR statement. Look at the comment I responded to before you jumped in.

    You have to be trolling at this point.

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  • But even if it did, your car will never have an identical twin show up 10 minutes after, going the same way

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  • Do you love cars more than people or something?

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  • Like, I don't get what you're doing at all. It just strikes me as insensitive to reply to a post saying something upsets them, and just ignore the emotional content completely to say that the upsetting thing is just marketing. The implication is that they were dumb to get upset.

    Why has this devolved so far, and why do you only want to discuss the content of YOUR reply to my reply to the original reply?

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  • Obviously i know they said they hate it because they hate it. But that's not the same as demanding they stop it, is it? Why are you playing games with me like this?

    Wtf are you talking about??? I'm not a bot FOR FUCK'S SAKE, stop trolling me. All I said, all I've EVER said, is that the top level comment i replied to was an insensitive reply. Then you popped in trying to elaborate on what that comment was saying -- completely ignoring what I had said -- and now for some reason you're upset that I don't want to talk about YOUR comment.

    Why?? Why are you doing this to me?? You're driving me fucking INSANE.

    WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME??

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  • the second part was from my post.

    So OP never told anyone to stop using those terms... you put the words in their mouth.

    Why should I consider what YOU said, when making statements about what OP wants?

    You forget everything that was said just in the last post before.

    No, that just wasn't relevant to what I was saying. Not even a little.

    All I've ever done was explain why that top level comment was insensitive to the OP. Maybe you yourself should look back and re-read our conversation, and stop accusing me.

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  • What about "I hate when websites use the terms" and "Makes me want to cry" tells you that OP wants websites to advertise with mother's day/father's day?

    Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say they wanted them to use the terms. I specifically said that you can infer they don't want them to use them.

    But, like I said, there is no demand there, is there? You can't get an ought from an is.

    what about "Websites shouldn't use the term for marketing/websites should allow you to opt out" tells you that I said people (and not only companies) shouldn't use these terms?

    That quote is nowhere in the OP. What are you talking about? Seems to me you invented that statement entirely from whole cloth.

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  • I did, nothing about people no longer using the terms was said in the OP. Please don't resort to wild claims of lying like that. They just said it's anxiety inducing and makes them want to cry. You can infer that they'd prefer it not to be used, but they didn't actually make any demands.

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  • This is funny and I agree with the message, but the logic doesn't work. If you apply it to anything other than gay marriage, it's clear why: homophobes oppose gay marriage on (allegedly) moral grounds; telling someone to simply not engage in (what they see as) immoral behaviour rather than opposing those who perform said behaviour falls apart if you substitute anything generally regarded as immoral, such as stealing or murder. "If you don't like it, don't do it," is fun to say to fellow allies, but a genuine homophobe can just reply, "well if you don't like assault, don't assault someone" as they attack you. I think a better argument would note the fact that any marriage only concerns those getting married, and doesn't harm anyone. "If you oppose gay marriage, mind your own damn business".

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  • Yeah ofc, but boiling isn't always making soup, sometimes it's just boiling, and what you're "dumping out" isn't soup

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  • I'm not suggesting that, and it didn't seem to me like OP was either