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  • i get the thought, but i just can't see it happening. at least not as an explicitly political project. maybe lemmy will make some sort of unforced error but even then idk. no redditor is going to voluntarily spend their time building a community just to destroy the tankies. and so long as piefed sucks so much i just can't see it happening. maybe the buyeuropean libs will manage to keep the piefed community big enough for it to happen but in its current iteration i just can't imagine it destroying lemmy.

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  • eminem is the only one of the people in this discussion who has talent; that is true. maybe post malone too, somewhat. maybe that's why i don't associate either one of them as much with the white rap industrial complex. idk i think the only reason to listen to lin-manuel miranda or tom macdonald is for their politics. i certainly wouldn't for their music.

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  • the thing is, miranda was putting on private performances for the obamas back in the day. i think eminem's niche in the white rap industrial complex is stuck firmly between hamilton lovers and tom mcdonald lovers.

  • i gotta say, i don't see it happening

  • a great developer does it in 100

  • what a good developer does in 50 lines of code, a bad developer does in 500

  • this is more or less exactly how reddit works. i don't know why they don't just go back to reddit.

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  • it's not that simple because if i don't get treats on my doorstep every day i will physically assault a service worker

  • is that genuinely what abundance is? that's just milton friedman. they keep coming up with new guys who are just milton friedman. even milton friedman was just a new hayek

  • Eating Ketchup: An Infantile Disorder

  • actually on further thought, reaction to living in a puritan/christian society at least explains some of the hostility

  • i agree with this take in a general sense but i think as regards that specific argument, the hostility demonstrates a certain lack of concern for the consequences of their positions at least. it's one thing to believe the sex trade is "identical to any other industry", whatever that means. it's another for established users and moderators of a left-wing website to be outright hostile to even the suggestion that some form of commodified labor might not be completely, entirely voluntary. it's difficult for me to assume good faith under such vitriol. i don't want to accuse the general hexbear of anything, or make a character judgement about anyone involved in that argument. but such hostility very much resembles the hostility of the western liberal to things that, on some level at least, they know are true:

    In short: Westerners aren’t helpless innocents whose minds are injected with atrocity propaganda, science fiction-style; they’re generally smug bourgeois proletarians who intelligently seek out as much racist propaganda as they can get their hands on. This is because it fundamentally makes them feel better about who they are and how they live.

    Roderic Day, Masses, Elites, and Rebels

    1. They did not respect, or care about, the actual facts of the matter, except to the extent that they viewed such facts with hostility.

    1. Being told that the Bad Thing they were purportedly upset about wasn’t real only made them more upset. Proof that the 23rd largest corporation in America was not in league with the Devil made them defensive and very, very angry.

    Fred Clark, False Witnesses

    idk how to end this other than to say i'm still very unsure why hexbears have chosen that as their hill to die on. but i know why the general western leftist (e.g. hasan piker) has.

  • we don't have that emoji here but imagine i posted a picture of a pig shitting on its own testicles

  • i was also in that thread and i'm disappointed i couldn't read your last post before it got taken down. it's disconcerting to me at the very least how many "non-partisan" leftists turn into satan's strongest neoliberal soldiers specifically when it comes to some of the most exploited proletarians in the world. it left a sour taste in my mouth as regards hexbear. anyway welcome to lemmygrad!

  • karl marx failed to cons-

    The violation of an abstract paragraph of the constitution could not provide these interests. Had not the constitution been repeatedly violated, according to the assurance of the democrats themselves? Had not the most popular journals branded it as counterrevolutionary botchwork? But the democrat, because he represents the petty bourgeoisie – that is, a transition class, in which the interests of two classes are simultaneously mutually blunted – imagines himself elevated above class antagonism generally. The democrats concede that a privileged class confronts them, but they, along with all the rest of the nation, form the people. What they represent is the people’s rights; what interests them is the people’s interests. Accordingly, when a struggle is impending they do not need to examine the interests and positions of the different classes. They do not need to weigh their own resources too critically. They have merely to give the signal and the people, with all its inexhaustible resources, will fall upon the oppressors. Now if in the performance their interests prove to be uninteresting and their potency impotence, then either the fault lies with pernicious sophists, who split the indivisible people into different hostile camps, or the army was too brutalized and blinded to comprehend that the pure aims of democracy are the best thing for it, or the whole thing has been wrecked by a detail in its execution, or else an unforeseen accident has this time spoiled the game. In any case, the democrat comes out of the most disgraceful defeat just as immaculate as he was innocent when he went into it, with the newly won conviction that he is bound to win, not that he himself and his party have to give up the old standpoint, but, on the contrary, that conditions have to ripen to suit him.

    The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte

  • this is common among neoliberal economy lovers. chicago school, austrian school, &c. their "economists" use "individualist" as a word meaning anything they like, and "collectivist" to describe anything they don't like