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  • Who's "they"? The afd related person sitting most closely to the Afd leadership was "let go" from his position in response to the revelations. And all of them claim they were there in private capacity.

    Without further evidence that is hardly worth all that much in front of a court.

  • that is in davger of being "conquered" by inferior races that have to be deported or murdered to prevent this alleged conquest.

    While that's a common talking point on the right, that's not even what the statement is saying. The only ones who are clearly villified in it are the people in power and they're even brandished as supposedly "unconstitutional" (implying the Afd is on the side of the constitution).

    It's still complete hogwash of course and pure conspiracy thinking that is gross and detestable in several different ways.

    The point is that their ideology gives way to murderous violence.

    I don't disagree. My point is only that just saying/claiming that by itself isn't going to hold up in court. If it were, Weidel would have long been sued and found guilty of "Volksverhetzung" for statements like that. But these people, at least the more cunning ones, know how to couch their hate in words that generate some degree of plausible deniability and let their followers fill out the blanks.

  • It is classic Nazi rhetoric and uses the same scapegoat that Anders Breivik used to justify the mass murder of more than 70 teenagers in Norway.

    It's awful, but I'm not sure how exactly you think that would factor in or be relevant in a possible court case. I'm fairly certain the bar of evidence is a bit higher than "they share talking points with other Nazis".

  • Yes, because doing it right now or waiting until it's entirely too late are the only two options. Not sure what that post is trying to accomplish.

  • And yet they don't want to initiate the procedure to ban the fascist part

    I'm for doing that in general, but I think doing that now would be pretty dumb. If you want to initiate the procedure you better make sure your case is air tight, everything else would be a desaster. Only some regional organizations have been designated extremist so far and some only recently. So a lot of the gathering of evidence has started and surely there will be more to come.

  • If I spend 100€ now to avoid 10000€ in damages later, spending more money NOW will actually leave me with LESS debt in the long run. And we just so happen to be in the midst of a global catastrophe where every Euro not spent as early as possible to prevent it will make it infinitely more expensive for us in the long run.

  • Rebelling against a blockade by slaughtering civilians is still awful and terribly misguided though. It's hard to see how someone who exclusively wants to fight for freedom and fair conditions would ever consider that an acceptable idea.