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  • What are you trying to say? That Ukraine is happy to give up land?

  • I’ve read a couple here and there

  • All of it

  • Ah yes. A Minecraft discord, last bastion of free speech.

    Let me guess, it’s awash with violence and abusive language that they’ve been asked to reign in and they cry foul.

  • Ok yeah I walked in to that one. Everything will be right wing to a full on communist. Curious though, what is China? They’ve got to be centre considering they’re essentially a capitalist-communist hybrid.

    I was meaning more what we would typically refer to as “right” wing being the parties in charge ie Trump, Putin, Orban etc. The EU for the most part is considered “left”. An economic and political union trying to do good by all its members, free movement, free trade, free market, rules and regulations, legislations and protections for its people and the rule of law etc. it has its faults sure but it is quite social leaning.

  • 🤦

  • If you have to use military force to quell civil unrest in your own country, I think you have a problem.

  • Lot of words there. And if I told you Russia was the right wing and the EU was the left, how would that alter your world view?

  • Why would Russia continue?

    Hmm why would Russia continue. Oof you got me there. I have no idea. Why would they continue?

    I mean given their peaceful history for the last 20 years of not attacking and expanding their borders, I can totally see why you’d think they would stop completely on the imaginary line.

    I mean they totally stopped after Moldova, Georgia and Crimea.

    This isn’t a marvel-esque situation where an invading force has spent 4 years gaining ground and checks notes suddenly stops.

  • And that’s right wing to you is it

  • Wait, my link was right wing?

  • Russia. They conscripted. They also ran out of them so had to empty prisons and use them. And when that wasn’t enough, conscripted again. And also enlist from overseas, offering lavish pay to Africans and Pakistanis et al for engineering and analytics jobs in the army but were actually sent to the front lines (so they’d die and not have to continue paying them).

    A marked difference from conscription in defence of the homeland wouldn’t you say?

  • Ok so if they concede and then Russia continues…what then. Will you change your tune? Or just continue to parrot the propaganda?

    Russia is as interested in stopping at your imaginary line as Israel is.

  • Ukraine can stop Russia. By continuing to stop them. One nation against the “mightiest” and largest nation on earth and in doing so proving that they (Russia) are in fact a paper dragon resting on their laurels and former glory.

  • Ukraine absolutely was not. They were never going to let Russia just invade them and take land. That’s a fallacy.

    They may have done in 2014 under a pro-Russia government when they weren’t prepared but this time they were.

    There is zero evidence of the peace talks nor of Us and UK sabotaging them or telling them to not accept. That is disinformation.

    Russia has not sued for peace. Any time they have approached potential talks especially with the Orangutan, Russia have attacked harder both pre and post “negotiations”.

  • Not really winning as I’ve mentioned before. They’ve barely gained any ground this year.

  • lol they weren’t sabotaged.

    Peace talks after being invaded saying give us your land and we will stop hitting you are not peace talks. It would spur them on to do the same to other nations around Ukraine.

    You really need to learn how to spot propaganda.

  • Such mad gains for over a million casualties