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  • Good Rhino

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  • A peanut butter sandwich is about 24g of protein, 540 calories. 5 of those would hit the goal with a 2700 calorie total.

    In contrast, a hot dog on a bun would be about 11g of protein (5.6 from the hot dog, 5.1 from the bun) and 300 calories (155 from the hot dog, 145 from the bun). Eating two of those would put you slightly behind the peanut butter sandwich in reaching protein intake goals without exceeding the daily calorie target.

    If you're very active and need a lot of calories to fuel your activity, getting enough protein is easy. If you're trying to get enough protein on a cut with a low calorie target, it's much harder but can be done with either supplementation (protein powder, etc.) or choosing certain processed foods (low fat dairy, tofu), and avoiding a lot of foods that just don't fit the goals (whether plant or animal derived).

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  • You're spot on.

    Too much of the bro science passed around in the lifting/fitness community is based on misremembered or misunderstood details of studies, that people have extrapolated well beyond the scope of that study.

    It is true that plant proteins are less bioavailable to humans when eaten, compared to animal proteins. But even the slightest amount of processing will go a long way towards improving the bioavailability of either animal or plant proteins, and closes the gap significantly.

    So when comparing what people actually eat, it's not hard to get enough protein from vegan sources like bread, pasta, etc.

    A 200 lb (91 kg) man who wants to get the ideal 165 g of protein on 2800 calories per day can go a long way by simply eating a peanut butter sandwich. At 4g protein per 80 calorie slice of bread, and 16 g protein per 2 fl oz/380 calorie portion of peanut butter, that's 24 g protein in a 540 calorie sandwich. That's 14.5% of the ideal daily protein intake in 19.3% of the ideal calorie intake, only slightly below track.

    Actually seeking out high protein per calorie foods like peas (8.6 g protein for 134 calories serving or 6.4 g per 100 calories), broccoli (2.4 g protein for 35 calories or 6.8 g per 100), or beans (15 g protein for 225 calories for 6.7 per 100) makes it easy to hit the total protein goal without exceeding the calorie target. Plenty of those are better than 80/20 ground beef (19g per 280 calories for 6.8g per 100) or hot dogs (5.6 g per 155 calorie serving for 3.6g per 100).

    The man I described as aiming for 165g of protein per 2800 calorie day needs to average out to 5.9 g per 100 calories. Some of the foods that exceed that break-even threshold are versatile enough to be included in many meals.

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  • If gym bros were philosophically opposed to hyper processed foods, whey protein (and all sorts of other animal-derived protein supplements) wouldn't be as popular as they are. Whey used to be a nearly free byproduct of the dairy industry, and now is instead a key ingredient in supplement powders and bars and also processed food manufacturing for high protein versions of things like waffles and coffee drinks and even candy.

    I'm a pretty serious lifter and I get most of my protein from a combination of legumes (probably 3-6 servings per day), processed dairy like cheeses and yogurts (probably 4-6 servings per day), and grains (probably 5-10 servings per day). I eat meat almost every day, but the actual macronutrient profile of my daily intake shows that most of my protein is coming from non-meat sources.

    Hell, a typical hot dog on a bun has half of its protein in the bun (about 5g) and half the protein in the hot dog (about 5g).

    It's not hard to get enough protein from plant sources. Almost every civilization in history was build around a staple grain and a staple legume, which generally provides sufficient protein to cover people's needs. If you're trying to do more, like lift heavy weights, meat makes it somewhat easier to satisfy the higher protein requirements, but industrial processing is really the cheat code, whether we're talking dairy or isolated protein from crops.

  • Age check!

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  • Career wise? The two metrics that matter is how well liked you are and how valuable you are perceived to be. Actually working hard and being nice can contribute to being well liked at work, and sometimes can increase one's own perceived value to the employer. But being nice and working hard aren't going to be rewarded in themselves.

    I'm nice to people because it's the right thing to do. But it also has generally made me well liked my whole life. So I've never had trouble negotiating above-market pay for my jobs.

    And I used to work hard when the situation called for it. Which isn't all situations. Most of my jobs had clients or customers, so doing right by them was usually more important to me than doing something right for the employer actually paying my salary.

    But I also advocated for myself, made sure that a significant chunk of the "working hard" I did was towards actually documenting my value, or getting recognized for current contributions, and building my reputation for having the right skillsets and problem solving ability for future assignments.

    Plus luck always plays a big role. Similarly situated workers at a booming/growing company paying out a bunch of bonuses, versus a failing company choosing which workers to lay off, are going to see very different results even if they're equally perceived. Much of my own success is simple luck of timing, right place/right time type stuff. If I were born 5 years earlier or 5 years later, or simply 500 miles away from my place of birth, I think I would've been struggling a lot more.

  • No, my point is that auto liability insurance covers the people you hurt while driving. It does not cover yourself or your own car, and it's perfectly legal not to insure your own car against your own negligence, even when it's required to insure everyone else's property against your own negligence.

    The thing being insured is different, so an auto liability insurance mandate is fundamentally different from a health insurance mandate for oneself.

  • That's insurance for oneself.

    Mandatory car insurance for drivers is liability insurance for everyone else. The driver is perfectly free not to insure their own vehicle (or their own injuries caused by their own driving).

  • I still have no idea how they made money.

    That's the neat part, they didn't.

    They wanted to pivot to ads, or paid subscriptions, but neither revenue stream really materialized for them.

    Google had a text to search service, too, that didn't make money, but turned out to be pretty valuable user data for developing smarter semantic search.

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  • My late 20's and early 30's were a really fun time. It was late enough that I was comfortable in my own skin, and no longer felt like I had to fit someone other people's standards. I didn't need to pretend to have interests in things I wasn't actually interested in, and at the same time I no longer needed to feel embarrassed about the things I was interested in.

    Career wise, I was in the middle of a reset, so I was technically in an entry level job again, but just carried myself with the confidence of someone who knew what I wanted out of a career, and comfortable understanding how my work fit into the bigger picture.

    It was liberating.

    So when I turned 30, that was me feeling like I was finally allowed to be myself. I think it worked pretty well when I moved cities right before my 30th birthday, so the 30th birthday itself seemed like a bit of a door opening into a comfortable life.

  • That's not quite the right comparison. You can't expect the old AC to keep working for 25 years. For stuff like that, it's really a question between replacing now versus replacing later, and the net present value of the combined cash flows when you compare replacement timelines.

  • I live in a walkable neighborhood, and I have a version of this with the other parents in our neighborhood, where we have a designated night of the week where anyone who can make it meets up at one of the patio restaurants where the kids can run around while the parents hang out. Not everyone makes it every week, but we've got a good group of friends.

  • I'm amused that the implicit limit in your comment, that the thing that makes drinking 10 beers a day impractical, is the cost.

  • Yes, the place we hang out is called a "signal thread" and we share stupid memes with each other every day.

  • Peppers, tomatoes, and potatoes have basically spread everywhere at this point. Most Asian and African cultures have readily incorporated those into their own food traditions to where it's hard to imagine how those cuisines were like before crop exchange with the New World.

  • It's not electricity, exactly, but it is a higher voltage that is different from the average of everything around it. Electricity needs a closed loop to flow, and breaking open the loop with a switch means that no electricity flows, but the voltage of the live line goes up and down, creating an electric potential with anything that might be at a different voltage, if a conductor touches both.

  • Yeah, you're probably right. I'm in over my head on this discussion.

    I am reminded of my first day in an electrical engineering circuit theory class, when the professor made very, very clear that he was teaching us theory and fundamentals, and that the real world of electricity required a lot more safety built into the procedures and designs, because not everything behaves the way the undergrad textbook describes.

    So I've learned something new. Thanks.

  • A simple lamp can demonstrate.

    You have both live and neutral lines in the cable, coming up to a switch, which can either open the circuit on the live line or the neutral line. Then, the lamp itself has a single light bulb as the load.

    If you place the switch on the live line, then the energy of the live line stops at the switch, with only whatever lower voltage is in the neutral line to actually be connected to the light bulb and lamp assembly.

    But if you place the switch on the neutral line, you're leaving the entire lamp on the voltage of the live line, which gives the voltage more places to potentially short circuit. If you were to take a non-contact voltage detector, you'd be able to detect a live voltage in the line leading up to the bulb, even when it's not turned on.

    You generally do this with the in-wall wiring and switches, too, and make the wall switches break open the circuit on the live line, not the neutral line. It's just a better practice overall.

    And no, the neutral line is not totally grounded, so it can still pose a danger, too. But safety is exercised in layers, and putting the switch on the live line is the better practice.

  • it's a bad practice to design appliance in such a way to assume that neutral will have low voltage, because in case of neutral failure in three-phase circuit you can get full voltage there,

    Who's using three phase in a setting where these types of plugs are used? In the US, at least, three phase circuits use very different receptacles and plugs.

    The fact of the matter is that the switch has to be placed somewhere. And it's safer to place the switch between the load and the live wire, rather than between the load and the neutral wire. Designing a system where the live and neutral can easily be known makes it easier to do the safer thing.

  • The actual electrical device can be designed such that it depends on exactly which direction is live and which is neutral.

    Imagine a circuit loop that, as you follow along the circuit, has an AC power source, then a switch, and then the electrical appliance, leading back to the AC source it started from.

    If you design the circuit so that you know for sure that the live wire goes to the switch first before the actual load, then your design ensures that if there is a fault or a short somewhere in the appliance, it won't let the live power leak anywhere (because the whole device is only connected to the neutral line, not the hot live voltage that alternates between positive and negative voltage). It's safer, and is less likely to damage the internals of a device. Especially if someone is going to reach inside and forgets to unplug it or cut power at the circuit breaker.

  • That's my whole point. If you're gonna ask the airlines to give different amounts of space for different sized people, don't expect your tickets to stay the same price.

    The current system is that the ticket prices are the same (price fluctuations happen but not based on the size of the passenger), and that everyone of a particular fare class gets the same sized seat.