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  • For obvious reasons, I don’t have transcripts of secret diplomatic meetings.

    OK, so in other words, no proof except the say-so of the involved parties. Which demonstrably was not enough to stop Rafah from being flattened.

    Yes, because the civilians had more time to leave because of US pressure.

    Also known as "ethnic cleansing". You're aware the civilians did not want to leave?

    The ICJ ordered Israel to take measures that ensure there won’t be a genocide.

    And they didn't. They didn't even hand in the mandated report after... 1 month? That was a year ago now.

    It’s a brutal war in in a dense urban environment against a deeply entrenched enemy hiding behind civilians.

    We really arguing the Zionist talking points now? This how far this site has sunk?

    "Human shields" argument also completely unsubstantiated, and visibly used as an excuse to demolish all civilian infrastructure. ~40k Hamas fighters, Hamas not even removed from power, after 1.5 years where hundreds of thousands of civilians have been killed and the entire Gaza Strip has been completely flattened. And hundreds of openly genocidal statements from "Israeli" politicians, no less! My god, to actually fucking ignore those.

    I'm not responding to this guy again. Assuming he's gonna keep going. What he's posting is literal genocidal incitement.

  • US diplomatic pressure delayed the Rafah offensive by several weeks. And there were many other things as well.

    First - provide any real proof of this.

    Second - Rafah is completely destroyed. Biden administration described it as a "red line" along with the weasel words "major operation", and then walked it back after it was completely destroyed, saying the "red line" had not been crossed, despite Rafah having been completely destroyed. With the bombs they provided.

    The U.S. is a military superpower. "Israel" is not. Actual diplomatic pressure applied would have ended the genocide - period. Your comment just screams to me how little research you've done on the genocide.

  • It's the international consensus that Palestine is under military occupation from "Israel". Military action against occupation is an enshrined right under international law. The exception of course is attacks against civilians - which are not considered legal, hence the ICC arrest warrants being for both Netanyahu/Gallant, and Hamas leaders - but also which didn't solely characterize the actions on Oct. 7. That is the actual, nuance, objective description of Oct. 7. No analogy is perfect. The Jewish militants in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising were likely signficantly more targeted against Nazi soldiers and paramilitaries, but at the same time, they also hadn't been stuck in the Warsaw Ghetto for a staggering 56 years, under a choking blockade since 2006.

  • Great, so we're already "lesser of two evils"-ing our hypothetical new party designed to replace the Democrats. Just great.

    Here's an idea. If we're replacing the Democratic Party, let's ONLY include people who aren't traitors. Can we find five or ten people like that amongst the American population of 330 million people?

  • Rewrite your comment except make it about "the Jews" re: the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. How does it sound when you frame it that way?

  • Here he goes.

  • Oh yeah, could be, but they had jack shit to back it up.

  • ^ This guy IMMEDIATELY starts a flame war with someone else under the same comment. Holy fuck man.

  • I have heard your perspective before. It's disingenuous framing and discounts all democratic power of the people to abandon parties that don't serve them. It's nothing but a form of trained self-subjugation for the masses that absolutely neuters any opposition to the ruling class.

  • What rudeness? In that comment?

  • Yes, damn my unrealistic standards for not wanting the population to support any genocidal politicians.

    Let me educate you about "the game". We all had the ability to vote for anyone on the ballot, or even write in candidates that weren't on the ballot (besides one state where they actually said they'd discard write-ins). There was no lift for the population to do this. The media framed it as D vs. R., you all decided any third party was "unrealistic", and that self-fulfilling prophecy cost any third party candidate the votes. Your D candidate couldn't secure the votes. Our Green or Socialist or whatever candidate couldn't secure the votes. Who is really to blame? The population didn't unite enough behind anyone to win. The person you guys united behind was a fucking monster, even though you got the lion's share of non-Trump votes. Do you have any other basis for voting for a political candidate, to rule over our entire society, besides how fucking popular they are?

  • No, because I have decades of trauma that you people are just beginning to feel.

    As I went on to explain in my comment, which for some reason you felt the need to just selectively quote and then reframe in some completely bullshit way.

  • Not even fucking remotely what I said.

  • In your society's made up system, that you refuse to abandon, despite the fact that its very existence threatens extinction for the human race?

    You played their game, by their rules. You lost. We wanted to either play their game by OUR rules, or quit their game. That was a viable strategy, IF THE POPULATION TOOK IT. But one sane person in Nazi Germany couldn't stop WW2. They ALL needed to be aware.